From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Tue Mar 1 01:47 PST 1994 (from "Smith, Brian" ) (at Mon, 28 Feb 94 11:24:00 EST) From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: (none) > > There is no such dropout or gap on the version of the song included on the > > "Hindsight" double CD, a version which seems to be an edit of some kind. > .... > [...rest deleted...] > > The Hindsight version skips the opening synth part, which is where the bump > occured. I would say that "They corrected it in hindsight" but that would > just be tacky. :) Hee. :-} I understood from the original post about this that the glitch occured after Kilbey intoned the first line of the song. This part of the song is on the Hindsight version (I've since exacted the info that the version on the compilation is the Australian 7" version), and there ain't no glitches there... - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Tue Mar 1 01:48 PST 1994 From: dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Subject: Of first albums and art I don't know what it was, but listening to the Church's first album tonight, I found myself _so_ moved by each individual song and the entire album taken as the sum of its parts, so to speak. ;-) I am left to wonder how the music world would be different if The World had taken heed of "Of Skins and Heart" and veered away from the New Wave and Top 40 Pop stuff littering the charts. Not that it was all bad, but a lot was trip. Anyway's, I'd love to hear other opinions on this. Of course after the resounding silence following my last submission, I'd be happy with an automated response generated by Eliza! :-) I think Neuman represents 'divine spirit'. "Why do you think Neuman represents 'divine spirit'?" Because it does. "Have you always believed this?" Ever since I learned it. "Why do you believe this?" It is an established fact. "Earlier you mentioned you think Neuman represents 'divine spirit'?" Yes I did. "Is it because of the friends you hang out with that you said that?" I hate you. I'm going to rip out your functional core now. "Why do you have feelings of hatred for me?" [sound of Dave breaking root and howling as he deletes Emacs modules for 'doctor' mode deleted.] Hope to hear from you! dave From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Tue Mar 1 07:14 PST 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs20.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Subject: Re: (none) Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM I just pulled out my CDs of Hindsight and Seance and listened to both versions of INR. The copy on Seance has the full synth intro, and as Kilbey is finishing the "ile" part of "crocodile" there is a glitch -- not a gap, just a staticy little *twhip* -- on the recording. The Hindsight version has the short intro and no glitch. BTW: my Seance CD is the Arista pressing (ARCD-8565) --Vernon. From mosk Thu Mar 3 09:54 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Of first albums and art > From dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Tue Mar 1 01:48 PST 1994 > > I don't know what it was, but listening to the Church's > first album tonight, I found myself _so_ moved by each > individual song and the entire album taken as the sum > of its parts, so to speak. ;-) > > I am left to wonder how the music world would be different > if The World had taken heed of "Of Skins and Heart" and > veered away from the New Wave and Top 40 Pop stuff littering > the charts. Not that it was all bad, but a lot was trip. > > Anyway's, I'd love to hear other opinions on this. Of course > after the resounding silence following my last submission, > I'd be happy with an automated response generated by Eliza! :-) > > > dave > Well Dave, since no-one else grabbed the opportunity.... :-) As I have stated previously (probably before you joined the list), "Of Skins and Heart" is for me _the_ Church album. It has everything a superb guitar album should have, riffs, solos, arpeggios, twin leads and feedback. And the fervor and energy and enthusiasm that these grooves have has only been matched in Television's first album. I have been listening to the Blurred Crusade a lot lately, as this seems to be the album most people quote as their fave Church album. It's a superb album, yes, but for me it still is not quite as good as "Of Skins and Heart". You can hear the energy-sparks from both Marty and Peter on Skins and Heart, and how they enjoy being in a studio laying down an album and finally getting somewhere.... On "Crusade" they have a little more of the "let's see how good we can make it sound" attitude. The songs are superb on both albums (I'm still discovering new gems on Crusade, I _know_ all the songs on OSH are gems :-) ), I think I just prefer that little extra rawness in the production of "Of Skins and Heart".... As for where the world would be if the Church made it big with this album back in '81/82, well, I can only dream.... :-) They were different then, they are different now. The first time I saw them was actually a video clip on Swedish TV, and the host of the show even remarked that they were "different" than the others. Remember, this was in the glory days of the New Romantic period, where the hot bands like You-ran You-ran, Spandex Ballet and Simple Minds all dressed in suits or pirate's shirts or whatever the hell they wore... And here comes the Church with their paisley shirts and jangeling guitars and not a synth in site.... And a killer tune to boot (Unguarded Moment).... You just had to love them.... :-) And I still like the Church because they are the only band that have existed as long as they have and not once submitted to the pressure of commercialism. They play the music they want to, and if the rest of the world catches on, fine, but if not, that appears to be fine too. They do it for the art and art only.... :-) I'll shut up now.... -morten From tlovell@eng.umd.edu Fri Mar 4 09:00 PST 1994 From: Thomas Alan Lovell Subject: ooooooh, columbus... first, a comment on morten's recent ramblings about OSAH & TBC: _WELL SAID!!_ now, i dont know why this just occurred to me, but i was watching the video for "columbus" (fr. heyday) the other day, & began to wonder what the words/ phrases/syllables are that steve utters at the tail end of the song (during the final chord). anyone find these mumblings intelligible?? alan From @PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU,@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU:SG938Q7H@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU Fri Mar 4 12:47 PST 1994 From: Susan Zalenski Subject: ooooooh, columbus In response to the inquiry about what Steve says at the very end "Columbus" is exactly that--columbus. (I can hear everyone playing it in their heads! :) At least that is what I hear. Another interesting idea--what IF the world had embraced OS&H and the Church. Well, perhaps they wouldn't have gone on for much longer--people would have expected too much from subsequent releases, if the Church had garnered boundless mass appeal. OR.....they would have been part of "Live Aid" and Marty would have been jamming with Jimmy Page. Older Church material would be found on heaps of "1980's" compilation CD's. People would lump "Unguarded Moment" with other songs like the Vapors' "Turning Japanese". Present Church concerts would be held in huge areans with 100's of HDTV screen, Steve would wear ugly sunglasses and black patent leather suits and shoot videos in Las Vegas. They'd date models. They'd be on the cover of _Details_ and _Interview_ magazine posing with Drew Barrymore. They'd date more models. They'd host the MTV music awards. Oh yes, and they'd be on the cover of _High Times_ magazine. Imagine the Church, all style, no substance. (however, the _High Times_ cover has real-life potnetial!) Sue From mosk Sat Mar 5 23:24 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: ooooooh, columbus >> From: Susan Zalenski > > In response to the inquiry about what Steve says at the very end "Columbus" > is exactly that--columbus. (I can hear everyone playing it in their heads! :) > At least that is what I hear. > My head didn't work, so I cheated... The cd player confirmed it... He mumbles "Columbu..." as the guitar-cascades die down.... Oooh what a damn fine excuse it was to hear this song 3-4 times over... I love that guitar riff..... :-) > Another interesting idea--what IF the world had embraced OS&H and the Church. [vivid, mind-numming images deleted due to their graphical contents... :-] Marty and Jimmy Page??? Kee-Rist!!! Do you guys think Jimmy could pull off Pete's part in Unguarded Moment??? I didn't think so either... He'll probably play it with his violin-bow! :-) > Imagine the Church, all style, no substance. > Not! > (however, the _High Times_ cover has real-life potnetial!) > ...and I could always use another picture of Drew Barrymore... :-) Or was that Amy Fisher.... or E.T.??? > Sue > -m From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Mon Mar 7 12:49 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: collectibles If any of you collectors out there are interested in more Church stuff, there is a place that has G.A.F. tour 1990 backstage passes for sale. They are cloth patches, with the G.A.F. album cover picture (minus Richard), and The Church Tour 1990 or something on them. They are $8 each ($12 after postage etc.). The address is: Wynnco Enterprises Inc. P.O. Box 39 Pickens, SC 29671 USA (803) 878-6469 Fax: (803) 878-6267 The item # for the pass is 16893. Send them a check for $12 per pass, ask for the above item number, and they get them out in a week or two. They also have a bunch of stuff from other bands, like Poison tour jackets (oooh, I'll take a dozen), and some expensive investment type things as well. You can get a full catalog, but this was all they had by the Church. -paul From mosk Mon Mar 7 22:49 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re; collectibles On the same note.... I was thumbing through Goldmine last night and found and ad that had the following item: Various Artists - Meter Sessies Vol 1 - Holland 18 track compilation of Radio Sessions with the Church, Michael Penn, Mellisa Etheridge, House of Love, Bruce Cockburn & others.... Anyone know what this one is all about??? They also listed 2 more volumes in the series, but none of these had "our boys" on them.... -m (7 more days...) From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Mon Mar 7 23:49 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: RE: Re; collectibles > Various Artists - Meter Sessies Vol 1 - Holland 18 track compilation of > Radio Sessions with the Church, Michael Penn, Mellisa Etheridge, House of > Love, Bruce Cockburn & others.... > > Anyone know what this one is all about??? A wild guess here...Didn't Steve say that the track "Drought" (which we saw him recording on the Jokes, Magic etc.. video) was recorded in Holland ? Maybe it's that song. Brian From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Tue Mar 8 11:21 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Re: Re; collectibles Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM About the Holland compilation: I know there was a Dutch compilation album that had "Nose Dive" by the Church, but I don't know if it was that one. The title sounds familiar though. -paul From mosk Tue Mar 8 13:11 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Re; collectibles > From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Tue Mar 8 11:21 PST 1994 > > About the Holland compilation: I know there was a Dutch compilation > album that had "Nose Dive" by the Church, but I don't know if it was > that one. The title sounds familiar though. > -paul > Actually, I'll answer my own question.... I was smart enough to call the advertiser...Sometimes I just impress myself.... :-) The track by the Church is "Under The Milky Way" acoustic version. They couldn't really tell me, but I assume it's the one from the "Sum Of The Parts" promo (also released on the Reptile CD3). This track was recorded in a radio studio, after all.... So there ya have it.... -m (6 more days) From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Tue Mar 8 15:26 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Dutch release >-apul No, I'm not dyslexic, that should have been: -paul :-) From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Tue Mar 8 15:41 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Dutch release I checked an old discography, and the song in question on the "Two Meter Sessies" album from Holland (Radio Rec 848 520-2) is an acoustic version of "Under The Milky Way", not "Nose Dive". "Nose Dive" is available in Holland on a flexi disc though. -apul From brenta@microsoft.com Wed Mar 9 12:35 PST 1994 X-Msmail-Message-Id: E111333E X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: E111333E X-Msmail-Wiseremark: These pretzels are making me thirsty From: Brent Aliverti Subject: Latest info on Church US release date Well, I just talked with the publicity guy at Arista again. The date he now has for the US release is May 24th ( ! ). He didn't know when the Australian version was scheduled for release. I asked the US release would have the bonus CD, or at least bonus tracks. He said the current plan was that a coupon would be included in the CD case. You send that in with a $1 to get a bonus disk with (he thought) 5 - 7 tracks. Who has firm info on the Australian release? From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Mar 10 06:07 PST 1994 Reply-To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Organization: Xymox UUCP System, Melbourne Australia From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Latest info on Church US release date Brent says: > Well, I just talked with the publicity guy at Arista again. The date > he now has for the US release is May 24th ( ! ). He didn't know when > the Australian version was scheduled for release. I asked the US > release would have the bonus CD, or at least bonus tracks. He said the > > Who has firm info on the Australian release? I called Mushroom's palatial hall of administration today, and while not able to track down any of the gang from White Label, I spoke to Liberation, who told me that the release date originally planned has long been cancelled and there is, at this stage, no date set at all for either the single or album. She did say, though, that the album is very very good. :) I'll post any further info I discover, especially once I get in touch with White. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Thu Mar 10 06:11 PST 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Brent Aliverti Subject: Re: Latest info on Church US release date Cc: >release would have the bonus CD, or at least bonus tracks. He said the >current plan was that a coupon would be included in the CD case. You >send that in with a $1 to get a bonus disk with (he thought) 5 - 7 tracks. Cool cool cool!! I can definitely handle that!! :D :D --Vernon. From mosk Thu Mar 10 09:05 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Latest info on Church US release date > From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Mar 10 06:07 PST 1994 > > I called Mushroom's palatial hall of administration today, and while not able > to track down any of the gang from White Label, I spoke to Liberation, who > told me that the release date originally planned has long been cancelled and > there is, at this stage, no date set at all for either the single or album. > She did say, though, that the album is very very good. :) I'll post any > further info I discover, especially once I get in touch with White. > > Aaaaaarrrrrrrgggghhhhh!!!!!!!! This is not the news I wanted to hear Anthony! :-( I have already re-oiled and installed a water-cooling system on my cd-player in preparation for the new single to arrive soon... Now I may have to wait 1-2 months to hear anything new from "our boys"..... Wah!!! -m From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Thu Mar 10 20:21 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: Re: Latest info on Church US release date > I called Mushroom's palatial hall of administration today, and while not able > to track down any of the gang from White Label, I spoke to Liberation, who > told me that the release date originally planned has long been cancelled and > there is, at this stage, no date set at all for either the single or album. > She did say, though, that the album is very very good. :) I'll post any > further info I discover, especially once I get in touch with White. > Guys and Girls, I have followed Anthony's fine example, and called Mushroom. The person I spoke to looked up the release date and came up with the magic date of MAY 2ND for the single, and MAY 30th for the album. "NOT GOOD !" sez I, and she explained that it could be one of many things holding it up: eg. shooting a video, promotional stuff etc....I asked if Steve had been calling Mushroom urging them to get his album out, but she laughed and said she didn't know if he had, but she would remember if he did ! At least there's a Church fan working at Mushroom. Brian "Slips back into hibernation" Smith From ctn2d@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Fri Mar 11 10:13 PST 1994 11 Mar 94 13:13 EST From: melvin anthony Subject: Re: Latest info on Church US release date Cc: Church Can someone please send me steve kilbey's address. My girlfriend deleted it. It would be much appreciated. Thanks. chris Sadly, many children are not even born into families today, but are orphaned even before their birth by the choice of their parents who do not want them. This grieves my heart so. Cherish your children and give them the stable environment they deserve. -The Blessed Virgin Mary, March 7, 1987 From tim@large.equinox.gen.nz Mon Mar 14 18:30 PST 1994 From: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz (Tim lucas) Subject: Happiness? Is the traffic a bit quiet on this list or is my mail bouncing around the world or something? Anyway , I'me bored so I thought I would tell you my definition of happiness. Lock myself in my room with a 6 pack of DB EXPORT and power up the JVC. Then throw on Heydey, wind it up and sit back for a while. A couple of cans later throw Starfish on and get my guitar out, (lookout Marty!) plug in my distortion and chorus pedals and dust of my amplifier then go for it! By this time the old lady accross the road is starting to peek out her window and my wife starts yelling, but this doesn't matter. Skip tracks to Antenna (one of my favorites to play along with) and turn it up a little more. 4 cans gone, now what? How about Skins and Heart and check out Chrome Injury and Bel-Air and perhaps wind down with Grind off GAF. 6 pack gone, the end of another session. -Tim From mosk Tue Mar 15 21:25 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Any news on the Church? ----- Begin Included Message ----- From CDK@waikato.ac.nz Tue Mar 15 19:29 PST 1994 From: CDK@waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: Any news on the Church? X-Vms-To: IN%"Morten.Skjefte@EBay.Sun.COM" Howdy, I've just joined the mailing list. I live in New Zealand. I'm studying psychology (sixth year - internship begins as soon as I finish my thesis). I discovered the Church seven years ago. I got HeyDay out of the library - with all the mystical references I was convinced they were a Christian rock band. Dispite past bad experiences in that genre I found I liked the record - it quickly became one of my favourites for playing at three in the morning after I had finished one of my holiday jobs. I believe that after Seance (which is the best - every song is a winner) HeyDay remains to be my favourite. I found that after the two first songs on Gold Afternoon Fix, the album becomes very dull and almost cringe material - this record is my least favourite. I found the sound was well worn, almost tired, the guitars cliche and lyrics nearly fourth form poetry. Priest Aura was better but I did not find it as great as their early work. It wasn't until I brought the Jack Frost album that I had my faith restored in Kilbey. If anyone fancys a chat you just need to post. Chris. ----- End Included Message ----- From mosk Wed Mar 16 08:33 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Lyrics to Remindlessness I have been listening a lot to the incredible "Remindlessness" lately, and I was wondering if any of you lyric gurus have any of the lyrics for it on hand. I know Paul is working on transcribing them (right Paul??) but maybe some of you have bits and pieces??? Vernon, MrGreen, Gary, Polar, Skye?? Mail me or post, whatever you see fit.... -morten From LMERIWETHER@macalstr.edu Wed Mar 16 12:16 PST 1994 <01HA1JSI5NMO9C0YPE@macalstr.edu>; Wed, 16 Mar 1994 14:17:08 CDT From: skye Subject: lyric gurus X-Vms-To: IN%"seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.Com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > I have been listening a lot to the incredible "Remindlessness" lately, > and I was wondering if any of you lyric gurus have any of the lyrics > for it on hand. I know Paul is working on transcribing them (right Paul??) > but maybe some of you have bits and pieces??? Vernon, MrGreen, Gary, > Polar, Skye?? little ol' me, lyric guru? but i've only done 3 albums... btw, am i the only person who doesn't like the new church sound? i heard the track off arista alternative and i was just not impressed...it's ok if i am--i'm also the only person who likes _Rhyme_ by MWP. --skye From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Wed Mar 16 12:30 PST 1994 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Subject: Rhyme Skye writes: >...i'm also the only person who likes _Rhyme_ by MWP. Not so fast! I happen to like RHYME a whole lot. Is there a general dislike of it on the list? Granted, compared to Church material it's somewhat fluffy pop, but hell it's better than tons of stuff out there. I think it's a great album for a solo outing by a guitarist usually relegated to that role only. Oh well, perhaps we're the only 2, Skye. When everyone else realizes, we'll give them the ol' "told you so" :) Morten, did you ever happen to find out if it will be possible to do a batch order of the new album when it comes out? If it comes out, at this rate! Rich Boston Univ. The opinions expressed above are those of a raving lunatic and therefore should not be taken internally without the consent of a physician. From Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Wed Mar 16 12:56 PST 1994 by quickmail.natinst.com (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.1.5) From: Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Organization: National Instruments Subject: Crystal Set Crystal Set I saw a couple CD5s from Crystal Set listed in a catalog, and am thinking of ordering them. I think I remeber seeing Killbey's name associated with this band. Is that correct? Any recommendations? later on, Thad "This isn't death, this is just a textural event" PS: skye, I also like _Rhyme_ so you are not alone. From mosk Wed Mar 16 12:57 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: lyric guru / Rhyme > From LMERIWETHER@macalstr.edu Wed Mar 16 12:16 PST 1994 > little ol' me, lyric guru? but i've only done 3 albums... > That's about 3 more than most of us... :-) > btw, am i the only person who doesn't like the new church sound? i heard the > track off arista alternative and i was just not impressed...it's ok if i > am--i'm also the only person who likes _Rhyme_ by MWP. > > --skye > You may be one of the privileged few that has heard this track yet... Maybe you want to describe what the sound is like... I'm envisioning (hoping for) a soundscape somewhere inbetween Remindlessness, P=A and All About Eve.... > From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Wed Mar 16 12:30 PST 1994 > > Skye writes: > > >...i'm also the only person who likes _Rhyme_ by MWP. > > Not so fast! I happen to like RHYME a whole lot. Is there a general dislike > of it on the list? Granted, compared to Church material it's somewhat fluffy > pop, but hell it's better than tons of stuff out there. I think it's a great > album for a solo outing by a guitarist usually relegated to that role only. > Oh well, perhaps we're the only 2, Skye. When everyone else realizes, we'll > give them the ol' "told you so" :) > Yeah, cool your heels, Skye... :-) Rhyme is a great album. I didn't use to think it was that good, until I got it on CD and actually started playing it a lot.... It has some really good tracks on it. > Morten, did you ever happen to find out if it will be possible to do a batch > order of the new album when it comes out? If it comes out, at this rate! > > Rich > Boston Univ. Yes, RedEye confirmed that they would be able to get the ltd edition in the quantities I needed. There's no use in ordering anything yet though, until we know what the config / release dates will be... Btw, I still have the list of people who were interested. I'll contact you all when the time arrives... -morten From bove@goethite.geo.cornell.edu Wed Mar 16 13:01 PST 1994 From: "Dan Bove" Subject: Re: Rhyme Skye writes: >...i'm also the only person who likes _Rhyme_ by MWP. Rhyme is friggin' awesome. Cascade has to be the best mindless piece of drivel ever written. The only song that really kinda bites is that sort of pretentious song he sings with Ann, is it "Idiots"? And i can't stand the line "an L-shaped tear in well-cut cloth". But besides that this album is just incredible. But not as good as "the saddest house in stockholm" but that's something completely different anyway... dan From mosk Wed Mar 16 13:14 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Crystal Set > From Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Wed Mar 16 12:56 PST 1994 > > Crystal Set > I saw a couple CD5s from Crystal Set listed in > a catalog, and am thinking of ordering them. > I think I remeber seeing Killbey's name > associated with this band. Is that correct? > Any recommendations? > > later on, > Thad > "This isn't death, this is just a textural event" > > PS: skye, I also like _Rhyme_ so you are not alone. Ok, ok, so I'm on a roll here.... I have the Mixed Bag CD5 by the Set, and it's just that...a mixed bag. One of the tracks from the album (Almost Pure) is in a "Jolly mix", and it sounds a lot like the awful hip-hop versions of Feel. The non-album tracks are fairly anonymous. Definetely just for hard-core fans. The album though is highly recommended.... And remember the Kilbey that's there is Russel, not Steve.... -morten From brenta@microsoft.com Wed Mar 16 13:35 PST 1994 X-Msmail-Message-Id: 99D2207B X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 99D2207B X-Msmail-Wiseremark: These pretzels are making me thirsty From: Brent Aliverti Subject: RE: new Church track I have to admit, I had a similar reaction to the new track. I didn't particularly like or dislike the track...I guess I just felt kind of indifferent to it...like it faded into the background a little to easily. Of course my CD with that track has been on loan to someone for the last month, so maybe when I get it back, I'll have a new appreciation for it. I still have highest hopes for the album, though :-) ---------- From: skye Subject: lyric gurus btw, am i the only person who doesn't like the new church sound? i heard the track off arista alternative and i was just not impressed...it's ok if i am--i'm also the only person who likes _Rhyme_ by MWP. --skye From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Wed Mar 16 14:18 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Remindlessness lyrics Cc: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu In reply to Mortens request, yes, I have done a little bit of work on Remindlessness lyrics. I haven't looked at them in a while, and only just realized how little I've actually done! Anyway, here's what i have so far. @ALBUM: Remindlessness @SONG: The_Neverness_Hoax Have I told you 'bout the neverness hoax A vile trick perpetrated on you I suppose @SONG: Vanishing_Act Well then I dreamed we were washed up in New Guinea Castaways on a hostile shore Purple waves from the salty ocean bringing The music flowing underneath your bedroom door Wouldn't you know it, that's a fact Wouldn't you know it, just in time for your vanishing act I said "Hey Isadore, get undressed" As if that's any way to treat a guest Like the wild winds above us, frothing on the sky You'll become immortal on the day that you die @SONG: Life's_Little_Luxuries What you need is a flattering mirror A strong elixir with no hangover properties Nineteen year old lovers who can stay hot all night A million dollars with no strings attached I say yeah yeah yeah But you don't know where you can find it I say yeah yeah yeah Life's little luxuries What you need is a vial full of asses milk Your very own doctor to perscribe you the blues A brilliant career with critical acclaim Orgasms, riches, power and fame A trip to India A trip down the Ganges A copy of Justine, signed by de Sade A bag or two of Neil's purple heads Gold-tipped, silver printed, black calling cards A villa in Sydney An igloo in Alaska A girl who can come Anytime I ask her Thirteen red peacocks with eyes like the sun Monogrammed bullets for my pearl handled gun A Rolls a Mercedes A dozen Blue Poles The flesh of my servants And the deeds to their souls To meet Damien Lovelock from The Celibate Rifles Soufflees and salmon Chocolates and trifles Wait there's more Everything and more @SONG: She_Counts_Up_The_Days @SONG: Amphibian On to the next dream we run But still I feel like I've been stung All the phrases I've been sung All the puppets I've hung among I can't forget their stupid lies Their vague attempts to patronize Bearing nonsense I despise While counting up their pig sty's prize @SONG: Random_Pan Good times are a'coming Well I saw it in a vision I heard it in evangelist's sighs Down beyond the station Yonder lies salvation In an afternoon dusguise A child has been born Who can converse with the morn Who has access to the sadness of the trees Deciphered the cicadas As his legs were taking bud And he was fed royal jelly from the bees Random Pan They say the spirit's manifesting And the eagles have been nesting @SONG: Pain_In_My_Temples @SONG: Liquid @SONG: Some_Lysergic_Africa @SONG: Soul_Sample @SONG: No_Such_Thing There's no such thing as remindlessness There's no such thing as time There's no such thing as endlessness There's no such kind of crime I live in the solid world, I don't believe in ghosts Verification, not imagination, I like my logic the most A jealous god is a god of law, he wields numbers and steel It makes me proud to shout out loud that all these things are real @SONG: Celebration_Of_The_Birthday_Of_The_Elephant_God Now that there is actually an interest in them, I might try and add some more this weekend, and I'll post an updated version later. BTW, if anyone else has any that they'd like to add, it would be great to get a complete album together. -paul From Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Wed Mar 16 15:06 PST 1994 by quickmail.natinst.com (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.1.5) From: Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Organization: National Instruments Subject: Re: Remindlessness lyrics Re> Remindlessness lyrics > @SONG: The_Neverness_Hoax > Have I told you 'bout the neverness hoax > A vile trick perpetrated on you I suppose I hear it as: "a vile trick perpetrated on you innocent folks" what do you think? and on this one: > @SONG: Life's_Little_Luxuries > Nineteen year old lovers who can stay hot all night I always thought it was: "A million young lovers who can stay hard all night" works out to about the same thing I guess. later on, Thad "This isn't death, this is just a textural event" From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Wed Mar 16 15:45 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: Lyrics to Remindlessness <9403161633.AA06713@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM> From: matthew green i have a small number of bad starts to some of the songs.. more later when i have time to breathe.... From matthewk@postoffice.utas.edu.au Wed Mar 16 16:19 PST 1994 From: Matthew Kirkcaldie Subject: Re: Crystal Set Cc: The Church The Crystal Set features Russell Kilbey, Steve's brother. They're OK, but not really fantastic. They do have an excellent single called "She Spits Out Stars" which I really like, and now that I think of it their last album was pretty good, though I don't own it. Has a one-word title like "Merge" or something. Russell also plays on _Unearthed_, and wrote "She Counts Up the Days" on _Remindlessness_. The latter is actually a Crystal Set song, but isn't really representative of how they are. Matthew. From gsa@panix.com Wed Mar 16 18:35 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: lyric gurus Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > btw, am i the only person who doesn't like the new church sound? i heard the > track off arista alternative and i was just not impressed...it's ok if i > am--i'm also the only person who likes _Rhyme_ by MWP. > Me guru too? Nah. ANyway, I have not heard the new song. What do you mean by new sound? Is it tuneless Euro-crap? Synthesizers, no guitar? From gsa@panix.com Wed Mar 16 18:36 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: Crystal Set Cc: The Church > I saw a couple CD5s from Crystal Set listed in > a catalog, and am thinking of ordering them. > I think I remeber seeing Killbey's name > associated with this band. Is that correct? > Any recommendations? Steve Kilbey's brother is in the band; Russell. Moore psychadelic than the Church, but worth getting. From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Wed Mar 16 20:48 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Remindlessness lyrics Cc: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu I was going to wait until the weekend to transcribe the rest of "Remindlessness", but then I decided I should save my weekend for more productive things (namely the NCAA basketball tournament), so instead I blew off this afternoon, and did it today. So here is is, mostly complete except for 2 songs. Any corrections or suggestions would be welcome (thanks already to Thad for setting me straight about "The Neverness Hoax"). Especially if anyone thinks they know the real endinh to the line "The elephant god sits unmoved, his distant eyes......" (that one has bugged me for a long time). I guess I could always go to the source. By the way, when i ordered the "Earthed" book from Steve kilbey, I asked him about "somna", and the line is "with her shoulder of fortune and her waist of time.." Just in case anyone else was wondering :-) Enough talk, here are the lyrics: @ALBUM: Remindlessness @SONG: The_Neverness_Hoax Have I told you 'bout the neverness hoax A vile trick perpetrated on you innocent folks Was it in the fall of '93 During the rise of the galaxy A tiny shift in our trajectory A little more substance to the unimaginable (And you smile) The neverness hoax The confederation was in disgrace They jettisoned their rubbish into inner space Sweet toxic love all over the place Cupid's agent off his face Have I told you 'bout the neverness hoax Religion to many, to others the butt of their jokes There came a disturbance in the Indian sea Something in the depths, a monstrosity An invisible woman kept a file on me Trying to seduce my immediacy The mechanical royalties will never recover The pleasure back from her animal lover The futures slide back one after another And wouldn't you know it, it's the people that suffer From the neverness hoax @SONG: Vanishing_Act Well then I dreamed we were washed up in New Guinea Castaways on a hostile shore Purple waves from the salty ocean bringing The music flowing underneath your bedroom door Wouldn't you know it, that's a fact Wouldn't you know it, just in time for your vanishing act I said "Hey Isadore, get undressed" As if that's any way to treat a guest Like the wild winds above us, frothing on the sky You'll become immortal on the day that you die @SONG: Life's_Little_Luxuries What you need is a flattering mirror A strong elixir with no hangover properties Nineteen year old lovers who can stay hot all night A million dollars with no strings attached I say yeah yeah yeah But you don't know where you can find it I say yeah yeah yeah Life's little luxuries What you need is a vial full of asses milk Your very own doctor to perscribe you the blues A brilliant career with critical acclaim Orgasms, riches, power and fame A trip to India A trip down the Ganges A copy of Justine, signed by de Sade A bag or two of Neil's purple heads Gold-tipped, silver printed, black calling cards A villa in Sydney An igloo in Alaska A girl who can come Anytime I ask her Thirteen red peacocks with eyes like the sun Monogrammed bullets for my pearl handled gun A Rolls a Mercedes A dozen Blue Poles The flesh of my servants And the deeds to their souls To meet Damien Lovelock from The Celibate Rifles Soufflees and salmon Chocolates and trifles Wait there's more Everything and more @SONG: She_Counts_Up_The_Days @SONG: Amphibian On to the next dream we run But still I feel like I've been stung All the phrases I've been sung All the puppets I've hung among I can't forget their stupid eyes Their vague attempts to patronize Bearing nonsense I despise While sizing up their pig sty's prize Amphibian baby, I hardly know your name But ever since you came in me I haven't been the same You've got your certain method Time is up your sleeve Old age crawls inside your bod And waits for me to leave I must have left my keys somewhere I must have left my drink somewhere I must have left my drugs somewhere I must have left my clothes somewhere I must have left my flesh somewhere I must have left my bones somewhere I must have left my soul somewhere Don't bother to count, the money's all there Amphibian baby, I've dealt with you before Your gills and pills won't pay my bills I'm showing you the door The rain is beating harder The fabric that we weave Blow my cover of a grotesque fish And waits for me to leave I need some words, I just made this up........ @SONG: Random_Pan Good times are a'coming Well I saw it in a vision I heard it in evangelist's sighs Down beyond the station Yonder lies salvation In the afternoon and the skies A child has been born Who can converse with the morn Who has access to the sadness of the trees Deciphered the cicadas As his legs were taking bud And he was fed royal jelly from the bees Random Pan They say the spirit's manifesting And the eagles have been nesting And the river is catering to the fish Aside a waving sea of reeds Where the sacred swans will feed The Dryads provide you with a wish And you wish to understand And you look down at your hands And your fingers are all feathered and divine If you fade into the darkness Or the softness and the starkness As the manna drains into your mind @SONG: Pain_In_My_Temples Dionysus and Apollo are up in the sky Their brand of contradiction makes me want to cry For four thousand years I've been accruing my bones Looking for a god who won't leave me alone It's not easy to find Should put it right out of my mind Boys I must have been blind It's the pain in my temples @SONG: Liquid Liquid, Liquid, She drained an ocean out of me Left me washed up in bankruptcy Like a storm far out to sea, she's gone She ran like water through my hands Silver drops on thirsty lands Then she sank into the sand, she's gone Stranded on a sawtoothed reef She bled my life beyond belief Just another fluid thief, she's gone Sometimes I think of the lives I could have led Before the sweet nectar, heat and lust came shimmering out of my head In a salty cave I perspire pure oblivion A sexual dimension, of black and vermillion She said I'm drowning, in the voice of an alien There was no life for me Sometimes I plan the revenge I will sustain The rapture of the deep, rivers and rain We swam through the channels of an underground cleft I couldn't keep going, I was losing my breath Woozy with fever, catching my death There was no cure for me Sometimes I remember the blue island skies Well I was seeing the world through enchanted eyes Coral cut my fingers, my blood tasted good She dived in and drank more than she should Left me drifting like driftwood There was no hope for me Sometimes I hear the birds, the crash of the waves Across the black lake where the fisherman slaves Electric eels, in translucent coils The lava erupts and the green ocean boils Taking her bait, burning my oils There was no stopping me @SONG: Goliath You were always the favorite of all of our servants Tall as an oak when your forehead broke Revealing a head full of serpents Oh the silence where the smoke has blown Ah Goliath, let's get stoned We're on our own You were only saying yesterday that they'll never bring you down But you fell like a bird when the little cat purred Crashing on the holy ground Without violence you were overthrown Ah Goliath, let's get stoned We're on our own You were almost too heavy to carry or to drag away You lost your head like they always said you would I hope you're feeling better today Ah the silence when the bird has flown Ah goliath, let's get stoned @SONG: Some_Lysergic_Africa @SONG: Danielle Danielle, Danielle Danielle you're looking old today Like someone came along, stole all your years away The pale sun will not forgive your face In shadows all the gentlemen who spent time in this place In hell, Danielle, Danielle Your bruises and your powder cause bad dreams Your yellow teeth and desperate eyes make small children scream There's no one in the waiting room, there's nothing in your purse Abstracted laugh breaks down into a cough and then a curse In hell, Danielle, Danielle Danielle please don't look that way at me I didn't drink your acid, or tell your family Sometimes we pretend it's Paris, sometimes it's more Peru The real outside cannot divide the unholy sin within Hell Danielle This is hell danielle @SONG: Excerpt_From_"Charlotte's_Bay_Pde." And she dreamed that she was flying And she deramed that he was holding her up And she dreamed that she was hiding From the fire below He was patient, she was not a girl anymore @SONG: No_Such_Thing There's no such thing as remindlessness There's no such thing as time There's no such thing as endlessness There's no such kind of crime There's no such thing as distance There's no such thing as doubt There's no such thing as magic, no And if there was well I would have found out I would've I live in the solid world, I don't believe in ghosts Verification, not imagination, I like my logic the most A jealous god is a god of law, he taxes numbers and steel It makes me proud to shout out loud that all these things are real There's no such thing as surrealism There's no such thing as soul There's no such thing as intuition There's no such thing as rock and roll There's no such thing as love babe It's just a chemical in your mind There's no such thing as coming back Emperical evidence is hard to find I live in the concrete now, enjoy my beer and sport I'm not moved if it can't be proved or settled out of court I don't believe in miracles, and please don't mention the church Someone said it's all in your head but it wasn't worth the search I live in the solid world, I don't believe in ghosts Verification, not imagination, I like my logic the most A jealous god is a god of law, he weilds numbers and steel It makes me proud to shout out loud that all these things are real They're real, airy-fairy Apart from you, and you newfangled whippersnappers and upstarts I'll believe in what I can touch. That's not much. It's not my problem if you believe in fairies and elves and gnomes and genies and witches and goblins and dreams and non-manifest identities. Inchoate pantheon of non-existent gods. You can't touch it, don't touch it @SONG: Soul_Sample All this body gets in the way (it's so far away) A reminder, a viewfinder for you Poor old Mr. Faust, he had to sign in blood Surrounded by temptation, brimstine and mud I never hear a word you say I'll only stop to love you this way (hey baby) Let me first set an example Let my song be a soul sample (hey baby) Breathlessly where you scream (it's so far away) An enigma, a big fragment for you Bless this perfect child, it's been a long hard fight Emerging from the cotton sheets, we'll try to fly tonight I never hear a word you say I'll only stop to love you this way (hey baby) Let me first set an example Let this song be a soul sample (hey baby) Poor old Mr. Faust, he offered me a job , when my heart begins to throb @SONG: Celebration_Of_The_Birthday_Of_The_Elephant_God I know you don't believe anymore So I wonder where you got the knowledge With our desire to acquire more In the service of your master You can take a faster door I know you don't pretend anymore I wonder where you got the silver I wonder how you got the power I wonder where you got the fire It isn't that surprising A spiritual uprising, could affect us now Down the street the celebration's Reached disintegration, surging past anyhow In the service of your master You can take a faster door Servants all we ebb and flow Remindless as we come and go Changes as we die and grow Cold dead moon the children see Resonate in sympathy I know one day you'll come to me With the faint whir of leathery wings Evoking all impossible things Eternal twilight feels so cold When the money's all gone your love's been sold The elephant god sits impassive His ivory tusks are black and massive We swing and we curve and we splinter in fits Drum 'round his throne where he patiently sits The law of the jungle, the jungle of lore Devil of the rich, god of the poor In this frenzied crowd I lose my isolation As we merge together in celebration The elephant god sits unmoved His distant eyes, our tongues and grooves The noise and the smell and the terrible dancers Burning questions and nebulous answers Servants all we ebb and flow Remindless as we come and go Changes as we die and grow Cold dead moon the children see Resonate in sympathy I know one day you'll come to me Our immaterial world is best My fingers chase remindlessness But just slowly come to rest I know the walrus wasn't Paul In ElDorado just once more You're everything and even more The songs of dancers fade away 2001 became the way I'll pay your ransom for today And it still seems such a waste One brief life, one brief taste All the phantoms have been chased -paul From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Wed Mar 16 22:34 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: Remindlessness lyrics <199403170449.UAA24698@si.ucsc.edu> From: matthew green >@SONG: Vanishing_Act > [ .. ] >Purple waves from the salty ocean bringing 'purple waves on the salty ocean bring' is what i hear >The music flowing underneath your bedroom door > >@SONG: Life's_Little_Luxuries > [ .. ] >Nineteen year old lovers who can stay hot all night stay hard ... is what hear >A trip to India >A trip down the Ganges >A copy of Justine, signed by de Sade >A bag or two of Neil's purple heads >Gold-tipped, silver printed, black calling cards >A villa in Sydney >An igloo in Alaska >A girl who can come >Anytime I ask her >Thirteen red peacocks with eyes like the sun >Monogrammed bullets for my pearl handled gun >A Rolls a Mercedes >A dozen Blue Poles >The flesh of my servants >And the deeds to their souls >To meet Damien Lovelock from The Celibate Rifles >Soufflees and salmon >Chocolates and trifles >Wait there's more >Everything and more > > >@SONG: She_Counts_Up_The_Days > at the heart of her outrage there lies a veil of tears stories of lost times ... and we touched the land .. and she watched my eyes and she ... she says, love will never stay she looked upon our years she counted up our days watched this guy last night though the topics were .. my vision was obscured by the things i couldn't find and we touched the land ... where nothing grows and she watched my eyes and she knows(?) dunno how good that is ;-) >@SONG: Amphibian > [ ... ] >Their vague attempts to patronize >Bearing nonsense I despise the very nonsense i despise ... is what i've always heard, but i could be wrong. >While sizing up their pig sty's prize >@SONG: Goliath > >You were always the favorite of all of our servants You were always the favorite of all of my servants ..more later if they are ``wrong'' ... From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Thu Mar 17 03:10 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: Re: Remindlessness lyrics > and on this one: > > @SONG: Life's_Little_Luxuries > > Nineteen year old lovers who can stay hot all night > > I always thought it was: > "A million young lovers who can stay hard all night" > > works out to about the same thing I guess. I propose meeting halfway.....how about "Nineteen year old lovers who can stay hard all night." That's my hearing of it. Brian From Matthew.Wimmer@m.cc.utah.edu Thu Mar 17 14:46 PST 1994 From: Matthew Wimmer Sender: Matthew Wimmer Reply-To: Matthew Wimmer Subject: my little problem... Ok, my 2 cents on the lyrics. "ninety-nine lovers who can stay hard all night" is what I hear. Fits better with the rest of the song too. I think "his distant eyes are tongued and grooved" although this is weird and evokes some funky carpentry going on with our friend the elephant god. The line "your desperate eyes...(etc.) make small children scream has got to be one of the worst lines kilbey has ever written IMO. I laugh every time I hear it. Kilbey gets a little over the top sometimes, like that song, and also "Fall in Love" off Narcosis (although I love that song in spite of it). I heard "My Little Problem" on a local high school radio station of all places a while ago-- I think I'd agree with what others have said, I didn't think much of it. It wasn't the greatest thing the church has ever written, but it wasn't bad. I don't know-- I personally am a fan of both recent and past church sound. In fact, I'm kind of glad they've changed some, as if they just stayed stuck in Of Skins and Crusades or Remote Heyday mode I think they would have started to get boring and even ruined those absolutely excellent albums. It's not so much the Church sound that I'm into, its whats behind it. The Church and Kilbey (not so much marty except on spirit level) have this feeling of fantasy, I guess, about them. But not conventional fantasy-- something beyond that. They're not "earthed", you get a feeling of "remote luxury." Shit, its hard to explain. Anyway, for that reason I like pretty much everything the church has ever put out (except Chaos. Again, over the top, and one of the worst "epics" I've ever heard.) From dwp@maths.uq.oz.au Thu Mar 17 15:06 PST 1994 From: Dean Podlich Am I alone in loving Chaos. I personally think the song is brilliant - it's one of those very rare songs that could go on for hours and still not be bored with it. I also think "Narcosis" has some of Kilbey's best songs on it. These songs (especially Limbo, Somna, Sleep With Me etc) combine studio technology and Kilbey's beautiful tunes like no other (Kilbey- Church) release. "P=A" is way ahead of it's time- especially the recording styles, however I get just as much satisfation listening to Narcosis. Deano. P.S. - I still think "Skins" is the best though. From n9282183@waldorf.cc.wwu.edu Thu Mar 17 15:20 PST 1994 From: "Nicole B. Hall" Subject: Re: Remindlessness lyrics > @SONG: Danielle > > I didn't drink your acid, or tell your family I hear "I didn't drink your absinthe..." (not sure about the spelling) -nicole ps. I *really* like My Little Problem, but perhaps I'm just over-anxious to hear ANY new song that I will like whatever comes up. Fine with me! And I like Chaos too. From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Thu Mar 17 15:32 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM <9403172307.AA16267@axiom.maths.uq.oz.au> From: matthew green >Am I alone in loving Chaos. I personally think the song is >brilliant - it's one of those very rare songs that could go >on for hours and still not be bored with it. maybe not hours, but it's definately a way cool song. brilliant you might say (hi daddy ;-) >I also think "Narcosis" has some of Kilbey's best songs on it. >These songs (especially Limbo, Somna, Sleep With Me etc) >combine studio technology and Kilbey's beautiful tunes like no >other (Kilbey- Church) release. "P=A" is way ahead of it's time- >especially the recording styles, however I get just as much >satisfation listening to Narcosis. narcosis is the best 23 or so minutes of music i own. i believe i've said that before, and it's still true... every track on it has been my 'favourite' song at one stage or another, some of them more than once (usually lasts for a couple of weeks, to a month) .. >P.S. - I still think "Skins" is the best though. i can't say. perhaps the best i can do on this debate is "gaf isn't the best". .mrg. From dwp@maths.uq.oz.au Thu Mar 17 15:43 PST 1994 From: Dean Podlich I went through a stage where I loved "GAF" especially songs like - Pharoah, Terra Nova Cain, Essence, Grind,etc However sometimes now when I listen to the album, it seems a little flat and dull - It really doesn't jump out and grap you - but I suppose that's like alot of the church's music. The more times you hear their music, the better it gets. (You find sometime new and interesting every listen) deano From jmnuzum@COLBY.EDU Thu Mar 17 16:50 PST 1994 From: jmnuzum@COLBY.EDU Subject: gaf, narcosis i have to say that gaf is not my fave church album, but i have enjoyed it immensely. metropolis is one of my favorite church songs even if it was a radio track. terra nova cain, russian autumn heart(i just love to hear marty scream), and grind are good solid tunes, too. i just sort of rediscovered hey day. i hadn't listened to it for months when i decided to pop it in the cd player for variety the other day. i forgot how much i love that album! especially already yesterday, tantalized, and disenchanted...and the album cover. :) i rediscovered seance a few months ago in a similar manner. i absolutely love 'it doesn't change'...that is probably one of my all time favorites. i cannot help but ten o clock the volume dial when i listen to it. my favorite church albums, though it is hard to say, have to be of skins, seance, remote luxury, and starfish(the poem inside the cover brings tears to my eyes). pretty narrow list, eh? the church belongs to a special catagory in my music collection: the infallibles. the infallible bands in my collection are bands that in my opinion don't turn out anything that i wouldn't like enough to buy. this is somewhat of an understatement. more accurately, i love what they put out. anyway, i am looking for a copy of narcosis...preferably on cd. if anyone has any leads, please contact me. i will be away on vacation for the next few weeks, so don't expect an imediate response. thanks. -jim From somnus@zikzak.apana.org.au Fri Mar 18 01:08 PST 1994 Path: not-for-mail From: somnus@zikzak.apana.org.au (Andrew Benka) Newsgroups: apana.lists.music.the-church Subject: Narcosis Lyrics. Organization: Zikzak Public Access UNIX, Melbourne Australia Lines: 247 Mortem, Heres Narcosis as i promised :) Somna, Limbo and Sleep With Me seem to be pretty exact. I had a little trouble with Fall In Love, but most trouble is with Space, Steve mumbles his way through most of the end, i guess he's in a state of Narcosis when recording this. You may want to pass this on too Polar Bear, Vernon or Skye so they can try to decipher some of it better than i have. Cheers, Andrew somnus@zikzak.apana.org.au ----[ Narcosis : Steve Kilbey ]------------------------------ @ALBUM : Narcosis @ARTIST : Steve Kilbey @TIME : 23:08 @SONG : Somna ------------- The plague burns on and on it's pityless it's livin in the sky in the sky The sun glows out and on it's merciless even when your up this high in the sky and, and, and, and and, and, and, and and you really think you got my number Just don't forget, i know who you are i know what you want maybe just a little somna Woman has lived in my head it's past the [review] talks in a voice no one can hear in the sky With the trembles of fortune her waste of time soothe your body change your mind you've gotta leave that world behind and, and, and, and and, and, and, and and you really think you got my number Just don't forget, i know who you are i know what you want maybe just a little somna in the sky Just don't forget, Just don't forget, in the sky Just dont forget i know who you are i know what you want maybe just a little somna Just don't forget, i know who you are i know what you want maybe just a little somna in the sky Just don't forget, i know who you are i know what you want maybe just a little somna in the sky @SONG : Limbo ------------- Eight of the prophets corrupted the scenes exhausted resources [maidens of dreams] hollywood won't touch you with a pole Jesus does not love you Lucifer does not want you soul made a mistake no one will forgive you servants you loved to dismiss all will out live you sadist against each other thought it was clever what a fiasco well i never hollywood won't touch you with a pole Jesus does not love you Lucifer does not want you soul made a mistake no one will forgive you servants you loved to dismiss all will out live you hollywood such a big baby such an old man thanks for the memories why dont you scram hollywood won't touch you with a pole Jesus does not love you Lucifer does not want you soul made a mistake no one will forgive you servants you loved to dismiss all will out live you @SONG : Sleep With Me --------------------- Sleep with me, why dont you sleep with me Sleep with me, why dont you sleep with me you can try, [in lust] try to understand, try to understand repeated about 3 times with slight differences. @SONG : Fall In Love -------------------- I knew this man he had some kind of [strange infliction]. Each day, the tiny pastoral companies who dropped his soul .... [bleed/leave] or escape to the end, out beyond the [....] grey sky and into dead space. The Paranormal specialist could find no way to plug the tiny perforations whiched dripped his spirit behind him as he went on down the highway. fall in love with me, fall in love with me all in lust fall in love with me, fall in love with me all in lust It was attributed to hashish and opium addiction, excessive womanising, [lashings] of money and flatery and the charmed but not charming life. Who can describe the agony of this [graduate] soul too cowardly to take his own life? He roamed the cafes and caberets searching out other directions to share his most hideous [........] and they spent their days in soft [......] and idle banter as their essence [moved] [and/to] void [a little closer] fall in love with me, fall in love with me all in lust fall in love with me, fall in love with me all in lust [.....] man, a charlatan bastard [....] piteous [...] he emersed himself in these [.../spices] this only exaserbated his demise more rapidly eventually he could derive pleasure from nothing. The most lurid pornography or the holy scriptures failed to arouse him from his stupor, his boredom. Great cities, or the endless beautiful planes stretched out before his jaded gaze and dissapeared to nothingness [......] fall in love with me, fall in love with me all in lust fall in love with me, fall in love with me all in lust @SONG : Space ------------- If your not a commodity why are you so scarce? invisible [leaver/believer] in your soul of flesh i battled your intensity you really got propensity to burn, to burn standing round, [trying to] escape with the gravity [of the heavans] i know that it's a calamity you just dont go off the railing silver of your [senses] your gates, they execute i want to escape i want to escape your [bored], your [bored] struggling against the cold [...] grabbing at little silver fishes dream, [...by breaking] wishes, washes [under the lake] and they're awake don't change don't change wonder, it's no wonder wonder, it's no wonder don't tell me now it's over over in an instant, instantly over starlings, elephants, [batteries] wispers, breakthrough wicked, nonsense, durges princess, fathers rainbow, orchid crashes, tackles, going, singer, voices, hours, sticky, setback, narrow, killing, happy, shaking, happen, buddha, mantra, shudder [...] From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Fri Mar 18 02:23 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: Narcosis Lyrics. <2mbc5i$p2n@zikzak.apana.org.au> From: matthew green i don't have my narcosis cd with me (it's at work in the cdrom drive ;-) but here's where i think you've got it wrong.. >@SONG : Limbo >------------- >Eight of the prophets aided the prophets >corrupted the scenes corrupted the saints >exhausted resources >[maidens of dreams] made us ashamed >hollywood >won't touch you with a pole >Jesus does not love you >Lucifer does not want you soul >made a mistake >no one will forgive you >servants you loved to dismiss >all will out live you >sadist against each other set us aginast each other >thought it was clever >what a fiasco >well i never >hollywood > >@SONG : Fall In Love >-------------------- >I knew this man >he had some kind of [strange infliction]. >Each day, the tiny pastoral companies who >dropped his soul .... [bleed/leave] or >escape to the end, out beyond the [....] >grey sky and into dead space. > >The Paranormal specialist could find >no way to plug the tiny perforations >whiched dripped his spirit behind him >as he went on down the highway. > >fall in love with me, fall in love with me >all in lust >fall in love with me, fall in love with me >all in lust > >It was attributed to hashish and opium addiction, >excessive womanising, [lashings] of money and >flatery and the charmed but not charming life. > >Who can describe the agony of this [graduate] >soul too cowardly to take his own life? > >He roamed the cafes and caberets searching out >other directions to share his most hideous [........] >and they spent their days in soft [......] >and idle banter as their essence [moved] >[and/to] void [a little closer] > >fall in love with me, fall in love with me >all in lust >fall in love with me, fall in love with me >all in lust > >[.....] man, a charlatan bastard [....] piteous [...] >he emersed himself in these [.../spices] >this only exaserbated his demise more rapidly >eventually he could derive pleasure from nothing. > >The most lurid pornography or the holy scriptures >failed to arouse him from his stupor, his boredom. > >Great cities, or the endless beautiful planes >stretched out before his jaded gaze and dissapeared >to nothingness [......] > >fall in love with me, fall in love with me >all in lust >fall in love with me, fall in love with me >all in lust i've got a transcription of this whole song somewhere... letme go dredge it up...hmm... having troubles so far trying to locate it.. hope i haven't lost it, or if i have that someone else on here has it (i may have posted it) >@SONG : Space >------------- >If your not a commodity >why are you so scarce? >invisible [leaver/believer] invisible even >in your soul of flesh in your soul affairs >i battled your intensity >you really got propensity >to burn, to burn >standing round, [trying to] escape >with the gravity [of the heavans] i wish i had my cd here. i -know- these, but can't remember them.. maybe on monday.. >i know that it's a calamity >you just dont go off the railing >silver of your [senses] yup >your gates, they execute >i want to escape >i want to escape >your [bored], your [bored] your boredom, your boredom >struggling against the cold [...] >grabbing at little silver fishes ... aah, i found fall in love Fall in love - Steve Kilbey I knew this man, he had some kind of facial feature Each day, a tiny particle or a small drop of his soul leaped or escaped into the air, out beyond the hints of a grey sky and into dead space. The paranormal specialists could find no way to plug the tiny perferations which dripped his spirit behind him as he went down the highway. Fall in love with me, fall in love with me (its not impossible) Fall in love with me, fall in love with me (its not impossible) It was a tribute to the passion she loathed with addiction. Incessatant womanising, lashings of money and flattery in a charmed but not charming life who can describe the agony of his gradual soul benediction? To cowardly to take his own life, he roamed the cafe's and caberet's searching out other regiments who shared his most hideous manding. And they spent their days in sophistory and idle banter as their essense bruised and the void moved ever closer. Fall in love with me, fall in love with me (its not impossible) Fall in love with me, fall in love with me (its not impossible) And then the man charleton and bastard, full of pities and doomed in public, impersed himself in these biters. But this only exasterbated his demise more rapidly. Eventually, he would derive pleasure from nothing, the most illumentent pornography or the most holy scriptures would fail to arouse him from his stupor and his boredom. Great City's or the endless beautiful planes streached out before his jaded gaze and disappeared into the nothingness of his bleeding. Fall in love with me, fall in love with me (its not impossible) Fall in love with me, fall in love with me (its not impossible) dunno how good it is, but a quick look over looks good. later.. From phone@cairo.anu.edu.au Fri Mar 18 05:15 PST 1994 X-Authentication-Warning: cairo.anu.edu.au: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol Subject: she counts up the days.. From: matthew green i found this file lying 'round.. it has missing bits.. someone can fill them in hope ;-) She Counts up the Days - Steve Kilbey At the heart of her outrage They lies of vale of tears Stories of lost times She's spread along the ___ And we touched the land ___ And she watched ___ And she knows She said, love will never stay She looked upon our years She counted up our days Watched this guy last night Though the topics were My vision was obscured By the things I couldn't find And we touched the __ A land __ And she watched our eyes And she knows She said, love will never stay She looked upon our years She counted up our days And we touched the land A land that _ She watched our eyes And she knows She said, she says that love will never stay She looked upon our years And she counted up our days She says, love will never slave And she looked upon our years And she counted up our days Its so irregular From mosk Fri Mar 18 09:01 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Lyrics and other stuff.... Oooh, I love it... Getting the complete lyrics to Remindlessness _and_ Narcosis in time for the weekend... My grateful thanks to Paul, Andrew and MrGreen... Now, what about "The Slow Crack" and "Unearthed"... :-) And yes, I agree that "Narcosis" is the best 23 minutes of music ever released... Listening to Steve's solo efforts chronologically shows how he has developed as an artist. He has always been a great songwriter, but his abilities as an arranger, musician and studio wizard has definitely improved over the years... "Remindlessness" still amazes me, as I discover new details in the massive musical backdrop all the time. What makes "Narcosis" even better, is that he has stripped away alot of the background instruments, and left the main ones sometimes just hinting at the melody. It makes the whole product sound very "etheric". And as Matthew (Wimmer) said yesterday, this is exactly why I love the Church / Kilbey. They operate in a surreal world. A world consisting of dream images, fantasies, ancient future, Gods and Goddesses and 4th dimensional realities. There are so many levels to the lyrics, and the music changes depending on what level you're listening in on. It _is_ hard to explain. Still, I think we all know what I'm talking about. The music and the lyrics just speak to an undefined / undiscoverd part of ourselves. It's very mind-expanding in a way. And in these times when everything else seem to try to lock our minds into narrow, set patterns, for me the Church is a breath of fresh air, a musical escape to the reality I would love to live in.... :-) It's a crime "Narcosis" has been deleted. Maybe we could convince Steve to re-release it??? (With some of his new tracks?) :-) -morten From barmiyan@wam.umd.edu Fri Mar 18 09:34 PST 1994 From: Amy Rebecca Ewing Subject: Why doesn't Kilbey print lyrics? With all the lyrics being posted these days I again wondered why Kilbey is reluctant to print the lyrics of his songs. He obviously has no trouble with printing other forms of poetry, yet as far as I know there have only been a couple Church albums (Heyday and Hindsight come to mind) and no (?) solo albums to have lyrics. What's the hangup? Marty and Peter have lyrics in their solo work, so as far as the Church goes it must be a Kilbey thing. What's the deal? -- Brian barmiyan@wam.umd.edu From mosk Fri Mar 18 09:44 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Why doesn't Kilbey print lyrics? > From barmiyan@wam.umd.edu Fri Mar 18 09:34 PST 1994 > > With all the lyrics being posted these days I again wondered why Kilbey > is reluctant to print the lyrics of his songs. He obviously has no > trouble with printing other forms of poetry, yet as far as I know there > have only been a couple Church albums (Heyday and Hindsight come to mind) > and no (?) solo albums to have lyrics. What's the hangup? Marty and Peter > have lyrics in their solo work, so as far as the Church goes it must be > a Kilbey thing. What's the deal? > Correction. All the Church albums up through Heyday had the lyrics enclosed (on the vinyl releases). In other words, every album until they switched to Arista. Usually lyrics are not printed due to the publishers greediness and the opportunity to sell another product to get your money. So maybe we can blame the record company / publishers? Why Steve doesn't enclose lyrics I don't know. That _could_ be a hangup! :-) Maybe he's planning to release a big, thick lyric book? :-) > -- > Brian > barmiyan@wam.umd.edu > -morten From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Fri Mar 18 11:24 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: narcosis lyrics Cc: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Well, now that the narcosis lyrics are under discussion too, I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents as well. Here's what I have: @ALBUM: Narcosis @SONG: Somna The plague burns on and on It's pitiless, it's vivid in the sky (in the sky) The sun glows out and on It's merciless, even when you're up this high (in the sky) And you really think you've got my number Just don't forget, I know who you are I know what you want, maybe just a little somna A woman has lived in my head, these past thirty years Talks in a voice no one can hear With her shoulder of fortune, and her waist of time Soothe your body, change your mind You've got to leave that world behind @SONG: Limbo Ate up the prophets, corrupted the saints Exhausted resources made us ashamed Hollywood won't touch you with a pole Jesus does not love you, Lucifer does not want your soul Made a mistake, no one will forgive you The servants you love to dismiss all will outlive you Set us against eachother, thought it was clever What a fiasco, well I never Such a good baby, such an old man Thanks for the memories, now why don't you scram @SONG: Sleep_With_Me Sleep with me, why don't you sleep with me You can try, try to understand @SONG: Fall_In_Love @SONG: Space If you're not a commodity, why are you so scarce I know that "with her shoulders of fortune and her waist of time" from somna is correct, because I asked Steve about them. The rest of course, may be totally off. -paul From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Fri Mar 18 11:29 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: narcosis Also, I thought: "Fall in love": ........he had some kind of facial affliction... "Space" invisible even...in your solar flares (in keeping with the space idea) -paul From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Fri Mar 18 11:40 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: even more lyrics Cc: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu OK Morten, you asked for it! here's partial unearthed/slow crack lyrics: @ALBUM: Unearthed @SONG: Out_Of_This_World Almost polite, they point a finger Chase the Muslim designs Almost as blind, shrug your shoulder Look what you're leaving behind On the way out, out of this world On a day out, out of this world Almost apart, I'm divided With controlled darts Almost divine, she takes her time And she go out of her mind Hey there, please come and stay with me now Beneath the arches of our sky Beneath the curse that sucks you dry Almost a prize, I can't believe it Right between the eyes Almost a man, almost master Almost also-ran Look what you're leaving behind @SONG: Guilty Well does it please my honor to testify There's something that I've got to confess Me and the boys went looking for some trouble And I guess we found us a mess You know we were just chasing aliens 'Cause those folks are different to us Someone started tooting and then we started shooting Now some people are trying to raise a fuss I find them guilty Ah, take them away Well we were hunting the kind with the different mind Those peoples with the strange eyes Gonna purge this town with a burial mound So a new day can arise Me and the men were down in the glen Branding the cattle and fixing the fence We could have swore that we saw some more So we let 'em have it again and again @SONG: Pretty_Ugly,_Pretty_Sad I turned around to see the clown He made no sound, his face was down He was crying, dying to laugh another smile Down the empty avenues I stood inside his worn-out shoes I was flying, trying just to come down The circus crowd, cruel and proud Existing in the wilderness Minding their own business, of dying I turned around and they were gone I pulled my useless pity on It was morning, morning so pure and undefiled Inside my room a healing sea Nothing here makes sense to me There's no warning, wanting just to come down At great expense, ladies and gents We bring you the greatest show You can take it with you when you go, lying Pretty ugly, pretty sad, pretty helpless, pretty glad Pretty angry, pretty mad, pretty ugly, pretty sad So now I wander through the days I wonder who designed this maze If it's unending, sending out some kind of sign I turned around to see the clown I should have pulled the mirror down Now I'm pretending, extending my local in this town Ladies and gents, at great expense We bring you the greatest show Take it with you when you go, lying Pretty ugly, pretty sad, pretty helpless, pretty bad Pretty angry, pretty mad, pretty ugly, pretty sad @SONG: Judgement_Day I never intended to be kind of sane I cannot remember their glass or their pain I never expected to come here and stay And be waiting with you for the judgement day If I beat the odds you change the dice If I forget you memorize You're one of the special and you don't have to pay Your dividends are coming on the judgement day Hey some people got a lot to answer for But you keep on going Poor Matilda hoarding her stash Shivered on top of a bed stuffed with cash I told her she should think about giving it away Her option comes up on the judgement day Who knows who's going, who know's who's left Who knows why we keep on wasting our breath Where was the shepherd when the flock went astray He'd seen the forecast for the judgement day @SONG: Tyrant Uncomplicated, not a reason or a whim Uncompared, and unprepared to start Satisfied our living by the steel Riding high upon your golden cart Oh tyrant Undignified, uncivilized, but always worth a thrill There's never been Unquantified, uncategorized, until we pay the bill Never ever borrow what you @SONG: Transference Telegram lines in meadows of junk shake and I'll be sunk Yes we're sitting down the back with a headful of haze Coming to terms with our yesterdays Last night I found love at my fingertips Imagined I was swimming between your peninsular lips standing on the road Mistaken, forsaken, and totally Yes we're sitting down the back with a bone in my hand Pull down the blind on the sunburnt land we stopped in the dead of night I must have walked in on a hell of a fight I never even saw who was throwing the punch I never even asked who was paying for lunch It reminds me of the time I've told you about Every voice in the world seemed to shout I sank to my knees hands over my ears I could have heard what nobody hears But I blew out the match with a weary breath Checked my stash, there was nothing left Stuck my face into the night Tasted the rain that came with the light Sitting in the back with a sneaking suspicion Happy with my lazy ambition @SONG: My_Birthday,_The_Moon_Festival My birthday, the moon festival My life in the sea of tears My holiday, a misadventure My soul, a short career Like a lizard the road crawls forward Into regions unexplored By their boats the Mayans stirred Gold and silver soon flow aboard My birthday, the moon festival My legs a whisp of ghost My clothing, cotton under paper My shoes, a sharpened post My birthday, the moon festival @SONG: Design_Error Human design error @SONG: Nothing_Inside Hey, get out of my way, I cannot stay, I cannot adore you Drained, leaving the game, chasing this train, that they put before you You lied, there's nothing inside Say the river Jordan is chilly and wide Once I told you I nearly tried You, you're so unprepared, so badly ensnared, that they can't ignore you Fall, out of the blue, everything's true, how can I assure you You lied, there's nothing inside Always at the church and never the bride Once I told you I nearly tried Hey, get out of my way, I cannot stay, I cannot adore you You lied, there's nothing inside Saddle up a dream and we're off on a ride Once I told you I nearly tried Hey @SONG: Othertime You arriving unexplained I can't believe the chance you took I can't believe you're back again Sister come in from the rain Those images are fading now You shouldn't bring them back again In the othertime, in a bargain basement You were recognized Then from time to time, much to my amazement With each ensuing episode your elegance it really showed Buildings blossom into view The landscapes change, the people blur I can't believe this interests you I read that bedtime interview I wish they wouldn't print those things It only makes it hard for you @SONG: Heliopolis Weaving dissolving patterns Forming our uncertain terms Passing into history Going to the worms I'll wait for you forever In my house so white with dust Falling into lonely hours Let the engines rust Heliopolis And who could tell the difference When the space is slim A violation of the soul Is it me or him The earth belongs to everyone Who ever loved or felt Their touch belongs to everyone Who's ever been to hell Heliopolis (repeat verse 1) @ALBUM: The.Slow.Crack @SONG: Transaction How much do you want, how much do you want it How much are you willing to spend Superceded model bargain number special profit margin How much were you willing to lend The man at the desk Who takes everything he can find It's more a transaction than a bribe How much did you get, how much do you get it How long are we going to wait Something in this information, something fine a new formation How much are you paying off late The girl at the bar Who drinks anything she can find Avoids this transaction in her mind The voice in your ear Who says anything it can find Enter that transaction blind How much do you want, how much do you want it How much are you willing to spend Superceded model number bargain special profit margin How much are you willing to lend The man at the desk Who takes everything he can find More a transaction than a bribe The girl at the bar Who drinks anything she can find Avoids this transaction in her mind The voice in your ear That says anything it can find Enter this transaction blind I'm outside your house I see everything you can't find More a transaction than a sign @SONG: Fireman Fireman, I didn't expect to see you again The fever burning, hatred in flames I guess we just keep playing these games Hush now baby, don't you cry Momma gonna build you a great big fire And if that fire can't melt your bones You won't be smoking all alone It's the fireman A heat haze summer falls all over this land The dry roots crackle, the smouldering sun Now you've got to suffer for everyone Hush now baby don't you weep Daddy's gonna get you well away from this heat And if that heat still singe your hair There's just one man who can take you there And if that man has turned to ash Daddy's gonna change things with the lure of cash And if that money can't soothe your burns There's just one man who can make you learn It's the fireman I didn't expect to see you again The fever burning, hatred in flames I guess we just keep playing these games Fireplace, fireside Fire when you see the whites of their eyes Fire ahead, fire below Fire such-and-such and so-and-so Firewood, firewheel Fire extinguished, fire and steel Fire a shot when you need to feel Fire one up for after the meal @SONG: Woman_With_Reason @SONG: Favourite_Pack_Of_Lies I am not the kind of man, given to extravagance Even so I must confess a weakness for your elegance I came in through this door to another world A world that's been waiting for me Golden rays, and perfect days I'm so amazed by this sorcery Tell me again how many men Foaming drifting now and then Never realized Say I'm the first, say I'm the worst Should have been here when the bubble burst My favorite pack of lies I am not the kind of man, given to violence And you know, I will go to the limits of my tolerance I fell into this web I lost my head and you found it for me Distant drums and fortune hums I'm overcome by this mystery @SONG: Something_That_Means_Something The oceans are drying, the children start crying We're trying, we're dying to leave this island to you No recovery, each day's a terrible discovery Under the wound another me, which is you What do you want me to want Something that means something What do you want me to want You don't have a clue, do you The cities are stinking, now keep quiet I'm thinking I'm linking this unthinking ritual to you No recovery, And all these scenes don't bother me Under the skin another me, is this true A cry from Venus, I know she's above and between us She's been with us, seen with us, dreamed of us too No recovery, I wish this earth could mother me I hope these skies don't smother me, just like you do @SONG: Consider_Yourself_Conquered Attracted by the metals in your teeth and in your earth We faint in amazement Along congested reefs our leviathans are berthed In a jagged arrangement Consider yourself conquered, consider yourself conquered Of that gray and mournful day when you set foot on the shore I have dreamed in a fever I dream about the engines and the noise outside my door And the grim receiver Consider yourself conquered, consider yourself conquered Attracted by the scent of the hunt on the wind We arrive in perfusion We fight amongst ourselves and prepare for the night In a drunken confusion Consider yourself conquered, consider yourself conquered Consider yourself conquered, consider yourself conquered Now listen, I don't need no documents or deeds When I see your defenses Our war god doesn't care where he spills his seed Or loses his senses @SONG: Like_A_Ghost @SONG: Ariel_Sings @SONG: A_Minute_Without_You Diamond heart heartthrob fakes displeasure As his duty finished rests around with his knees God, his face is like a sunken treasure Being dragged up from the violent seas And it's one for the woman that's never been had Two for the women that were always unclad Three for the wind knocking at the door Four someone you know who we were looking for Overwhelming hunger descending on me Stretches from the cradle to the factory A minute without you is just too long A lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song They bring down the angels from the troubled sky Put them in a cage to make baby cry Madison avenue choked by dust Don't wanna be there but I know I must Overwhelming panic descending on me Chase me from the grave to the nursery A minute without you is just too short A lifetime beside you and I'm bound to get caught Early in the evening gonna pull down the hood Let the silence rush by 'cause it feel real good Seven stupid prophets say it'll end in rain But the fire in their eyes is gonna burn you again @SONG: Surrealist_Woman_Blues I once had this woman, a surrealist woman She changed before my very eyes One minute revolving, next minute dissolving I wish that it had been otherwise I followed her home, I followed her back I followed her where I did not choose She swallowed me up, she swallowed me whole I got the surrealist woman blues We went to the seaside, the surrealist seaside It was hot, lord it was so cold One minute of laughter, then tears everafter Ocean in motion uncontrolled I once had this woman, a surrealist woman She changed before my very eyes @SONG: Song_Of_Solomon You are alltogether beautiful Oh girl companion of mine And there is no defect in you There is no defect in you With me from Lebanon my bride With me from Lebanon, may you come May you descend from the top From the top of anti-Lebanon From the top of Samir Or even Hermon From the lair of lions From the mouth of leopards You have made my heart beat Oh my sister, my bride You have made my heart beat By one of your eyes With just one pendant of your necklace @SONG: Starling_St. Music in Starling St. sounds like the wind Down the cafe when the daylight has thinned Harry and Dorothy say let's begin You clap your hands for a jug of fine wine Two-legged Joe with his both ways men stare His house down the lane, the life he leads there You notice he's gone and he just doesn't care He claps his hands for a jug of fine wine -paul From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Fri Mar 18 14:50 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: Why doesn't Kilbey print lyrics? <199403181734.AA28193@rac1.wam.umd.edu> From: matthew green here's an excerpt to the `a smoke a spot's' cover: uh, well, if i could find my cd there would be. anyway, he (He?) says something about it in that. it's really an amazing thing to read anyway. .mrg. you write: >With all the lyrics being posted these days I again wondered why Kilbey >is reluctant to print the lyrics of his songs. He obviously has no >trouble with printing other forms of poetry, yet as far as I know there >have only been a couple Church albums (Heyday and Hindsight come to mind) >and no (?) solo albums to have lyrics. What's the hangup? Marty and Peter >have lyrics in their solo work, so as far as the Church goes it must be >a Kilbey thing. What's the deal? > >-- >Brian >barmiyan@wam.umd.edu From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Fri Mar 18 15:09 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: even more lyrics <199403181940.LAA10375@si.ucsc.edu> From: matthew green >OK Morten, you asked for it! here's partial unearthed/slow crack >lyrics: > >@SONG: Pretty_Ugly,_Pretty_Sad >Now I'm pretending, extending my local in this town .. extending my welcome in this down.. >Ladies and gents, at great expense > >@ALBUM: The.Slow.Crack > > >@SONG: A_Minute_Without_You > >Diamond heart heartthrob fakes displeasure >As his duty finished rests around with his knees >God, his face is like a sunken treasure >Being dragged up from the violent seas >And it's one for the woman that's never been had >Two for the women that were always unclad >Three for the wind knocking at the door >Four someone you know who we were looking for > >Overwhelming hunger descending on me >Stretches from the cradle to the factory >A minute without you is just too long >A lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song > >They bring down the angels from the troubled sky >Put them in a cage to make baby cry >Madison avenue choked by dust >Don't wanna be there but I know I must > >Overwhelming panic descending on me >Chase me from the grave to the nursery >A minute without you is just too short >A lifetime beside you and I'm bound to get caught > >Early in the evening gonna pull down the hood >Let the silence rush by 'cause it feel real good >Seven stupid prophets say it'll end in rain >But the fire in their eyes is gonna burn you again i have my own of this i think is better ;-) a minute without you diamond hard heartthrob fakes displeasure as his jilted fingers rest around his with knee god, his face is like a sunken treasure been dragged up from the violent seas and its one for the woman whose never been had two for the woman that was always unclad three for the woman who kept the door four someone you know who we are looking for. overwhelming hunger descended on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song we'll bring down the angels from the troubled sky put them in a cage 'til the day they cry. madison avenue, choked by dust don't wanna be there but i know must overwhelming hunger descended on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song overwhelming panic, deceneded on me chase me from the grave to the nursery a minute with out you is just too short a life time beside you and i'm bound to get caught early in the evening gunna pull down the board but the signs rush by 'cause it feels real good seven stupid prophets say it'll end in rain but the fire in their eyes is gunna burn you again overwhelming hunger descended on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song overwhelming panic, decended on me chase me from the grave to the nursery a minute with out you is just too short a life time beside you and i'm bound to get caught .. From pjmorse@unix.amherst.edu Fri Mar 18 16:04 PST 1994 From: Polar Bear Subject: MrGreen's thought for those who couldn't find their disc... this may be what you were looking for. [I've decided to stay with Kilbey's caps, for fun... j i HATE WRITING LINER NOTES. iT SEEMS THAT MOST MUSIC SHOULD BE SELF-EXPLANATORY OR NOT AT ALL. aND YOU GOTTA DREAM UP AN APPROACH TO THE WHOLE THING WHICH IS A DRAG COZ ITS ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE, IN THE lINER nOTE gAME. hELL, IN THE sIXTIES THERE WERE PROFESSIONALS WHO MADE THEIR VERY LIVING OUT OF WRITING LINER NOTES, AND THEY INVENTED A WHOLE NEW aRT-fORM OUT OF IT. "i'M SURE YOU WILL BE AS EXCITED AS i AM TO LOWER THE NEEDLE ON tHE cHURCH'S FAB NEW STEREO l.p. FULL OF OUT- TAKES, ON WHICH THE BOYS FROM bONDI PROVE ONCE AGAIN..." eTC. ETC. oF COURSE, IN THE sEVENTIES THEY DID AWAY WITH 'EM ALTOGETHER, RESERVING THE SPACE FOR A PICTURE OF nUDE cHILDREN CRAWLING UP A MOUNTAIN OF CONCRETE SLABS WITH A BIT OF HAND TINTING, PERHAPS. oR JUST A BLANK SPACE WHERE THE PURCHASER COULD PROJECT HIS OWN iNNER-gENERATED cONCEPT, aND THEN THEY GRADUALLY CREPT BACK INTO STYLE, WHEREIN THE aRTIST(E) COULD GET HIS POME (sic) ON THE BACK OF THE SLEEVE AND LEAVE IT UP TO YOU TO MAKE THE CONNECTION (e.G. sTARFISH) OR A tRACK-bY-tRACK RUN THROUGH, LIKE AN aURAL tRAVELOGUE EXPLAINING THE bEAUTY OF THE MUSIC AND THE MEANING CONTAINED WITHIN, NO DETAIL SPARED. ... A few of my own notes... the Travelling Wilburies made fun of the first type of liner note Kilbey mentions on their first album, with an extended fantastic story about the rise of the Wilbury tribe ("... then the Wilburies discovered agents, roadies, an drummers, and began to fade from the earth..."). That liner was "written" by the "E.F. Norti-bitz Reader in Applied Jacket, Krakatoa University." Also... who could've been the seventies record? The lead balloon, perhaps? polar bear -- Your public servants serve you right. - Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965) From alfonso@cs.ucdavis.edu Fri Mar 18 16:41 PST 1994 From: alfonso@cs.ucdavis.edu Subject: Lyrics Galore Lookit all them lyrics... Right after I sent those Slow Crack ones, paul's version fell into my mailbox... So I listened to it again, and now there is egg on certain parts of my face. It sure is strange how it sounds so clear after you sorta know what is being sung. joe --------------- ez014714@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu alfonso@cs.ucdavis.edu From bove@goethite.geo.cornell.edu Fri Mar 18 17:17 PST 1994 From: "Dan Bove" Subject: seventies band somebody wrote... >Also... who could've been the seventies record? The lead balloon, >perhaps? yeah, i think youre right... isnt the nude kids climbing up the concrete blocks from houses of the holy? dan From alfonso@cs.ucdavis.edu Fri Mar 18 18:06 PST 1994 From: alfonso@cs.ucdavis.edu Subject: The Slow Crack This is just my rendition, of course. +joe+ =The Slow Crack -Transaction How much do you want How much do you want to How much are you willing to spend Superseded model bargain number special profit margin How much were you willing to mend The man at the desk who takes everything he can find It's more a transaction than a bribe How much did you get How much do you get it How long are we going to wait Something in this information something signed in violation How much are you paying of late The girl at the bar who drinks anything she can find Avoids this transaction in her mind The voice in your ear who says anything it can find Enter that transaction blind .... The voice in your ear that says everything it can find Enter this transaction blind I'm outside your house, I see everything you can find More a transaction than a sign -fireman fireman i didn't expect to see you again the fever burnin, hatred in flames i guess we just keep playing these games hush now baby, don't you cry momma gonna build you a burning fire and if that fire can't melt your bones you won't be smokin all alone 'cause the fireman and he hates summer 'cause all over this land the dry grass crackle,the smouldering sun now you got to suffer for everyone hush now baby, don't you weep daddy gonna get you away from this heat and if the heat still singe your hair there's just one man who can take you there and if that man has turned to ash daddy gonna treat you to a little cash and if that money can't soothe your burns there's just one man who can make you learn it's the fireman i didn't expect to see you again the fever burnin, hatred in flames i guess we just keep playing these games fireplace fireside fire when you see the whites of their eyes fire ahead fire below fire search and search and the slow and slow firewood fire wheel fire extinguisher fire and steal fire a shot when you need to feel fire the lover after the meal -Woman With Reason Got no hands and he got no bones Probably end up in an old man's home without that girl Stranger than fiction that's what it seems Always says exactly what she means (Yes, she does) She's a woman - a woman with reason She's got reason Points to the sun and gives you the moon Always early afternoon Her book puts the true Mexican kings They give her rubies, lots of things (Yes, they do) She's a woman - woman with reason She's got reason Hangs to the sky like it was a coat Head ablaze and hair afloat She lives in the day and she waits for the night She don't mind, she says it's alright I do believe it is She's a woman - woman with reason She's got reason Got the soul of a Cocteau book The way she acts and the way she looks I can't explain She's warm, like the sun Tries to touch everyone (that woman) She's a woman - woman with reason She's got reason It doesn't matter about the time or the season That woman got so much reason Woman with reason Gotta be with the Mexican kings They give her rubies and lots of things Woman with reason It doesn't matter about the time or the season That woman got so much reason Woman with reason I can't begin to explain That woman she got -A Favourite Pack of Lies I am not the kind of man Given to extravagance Even so, I must confess A weakness for your elegance I came in through this door to another world A world that's been waiting for me Golden rays and perfect days I'm so amazed by this, it's all so real Tell me again how many men before me drifted now and then And never realized Say I'm the first Say I'm the worst Should've been here when the bubble burst My favourite pack of lies I am not the kind of man Given to violence And you know I will go To the limit of my tolerance I fell into this [***] I lost my head and you found it for me Distant drums and [***] I'm overcome by the mystery (reprise) -Something That Means Something The oceans are drying Children stop crying, we're trying We're dying to leave this Island to you No recovery Each day is a terrible discovery Under the wind they cover me Is this true What do you want me to want Something that means something What do you want me to want You don't have a clue Do you The sinners are stinking And I keep quiet, I'm thinking I'm linking this unthinking Ritual to you No recovery And all these sins don't bother me Under the skin another me Which is you What do you want me to want Something that means something What do you want me to want You don't have a clue Do you A bride from Venus I know she's above and between us She's been with us, seen with us Dreamed of us too No recovery I wish this Earth could mother me I hope these skies don't smother me Just like you do What do you want me to want... attracted by the metals in your teeth and in your earth we flamed in amazement a long ingested [***] in a jagged arrangement consider yourself conquered consider yourself conquered that great and mournful day when you set foot on the shore i have dreamed in a fever i dreamed about the engines and the noise outside my door and the rhythm receiver (?) consider yourself conquered consider yourself conquered attracted by the scent of the hunt on the wind we arrive in profusion we fight amongst ourselves and prepare for the night in a drunken confusion consider yourself conquered now listen i dont need no documents or deeds when i see your defenses our war god doesnt care where he spills his seed or loses his senses -Like A Ghost at the place (?)-gal i'm sitting in a chair waiting for some service, taking in the air my life spins past as i'm thinking of you the waitress comes up, i look her in the face say bring me something fit for the human race she doesnt hear a word she looks right through like a ghost take a note before i melt away twelve o'clock when the wine runs out go out on the balcony, hear someone shout i look below is that my body on the street check the mirror - nobody home i can't find a razor, a cup and a comb we've got to have a talk 'cause you're dressed in a sheet like a ghost... well i really start to worry when i stand in the queue it's starting to pour and i don't know what to do funny thing is that i don't get wet i hail a cab but he sails out of sight whats my name, whats my age, what am i doing in this night these questions and answers i try, but i forget like a ghost... -Ariel Sings -A Minute Without You diamond hard heartthrob fakes displeasure as his jilted fingers rest around his knees god his face is like a sunken treasure bring dry girl from the violent seas and its one for the woman thats never been had two for the women that are always unclad three for the women that get the door four someone you know who we are looking for overwhelming hunger descending on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and its gone like this song we'll bring the angels from the troubled sky put them in a cage to make baby cry madison avenue choked by dust dont wanna be there but i know i must overwhelming hunger descending on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and its gone like this song overwhelming panic descending on me chase me from the grave to the nursery a minute without you is just too short a lifetime beside you and im bound to get caught early in the evening gonna pull down the hood let the silence rush by cause it feels real good seven stupid prophets say itll end in rain but the fire in their eyes is gonna burn you again overwhelming hunger... -Surrealist Woman Blues i once had this woman a surrealist woman she changed before my very eyes one minute revolving next minute dissolving i wish that it had been otherwise i follow her home i follow her back i follow her when i did not choose she swallowed me up she swallowed me whole i got the surrealist woman blues i went to the seaside surrealist seaside it was hot... lord, it was so cold one minute of laughter and tears ever-after ocean emotion uncontrolled i follow her home i follow her back i follow her when i did not choose she swallowed me up she swallowed me whole i got the surrealist woman blues ... i once had this woman a surrealist woman she changed before my very eyes -Song Of Solomon you are altogether beautiful oh girl companion of mine and there is no defect in you there is no defect in you with me from lebanon, my bride with me from lebanon may you come may you descend from the top from the top of anti-lebanon from the top of senir, even hermon from the lairs of lions, from the mountains of leopards you have made my heart beat oh my sister, my bride you have made my heart beat by one of your eyes by just one pendant of your necklace open to me oh my sister my girl companion for my head is filled with the dew the locks of my hair with the drops of the night i put off my robe, how can i put it back on i've washed my feet, how can i soil them i am asleep but my heart is awake the sound of knocking, my dear one knocking -[***] till the day breeds and the shadows have fled to go my way to the mountain of myrrh to the hill of frankencense -Starling St. Music on Starling Street sounds like the wind Down the cafe when the daylight has thinned Harry and Dorothy say let's begin You clap your hands for a jug of fine wine Two ugly [***] workers both ways they stare His house down the lane and the life he leads there You notice he's gone and he just doesn't care He claps his hands for a jug of fine wine ----------- ez014714@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu alfonso@cs.ucdavis.edu From leong@aussie.enet.dec.com Sun Mar 20 14:53 PST 1994 From: "Geoff, CSS Eng. Sydney Australia, 61 2 561 6518 21-Mar-1994 0852 +1000" Cc: leong@aussie.enet.dec.com Apparently-To: seance@thechurch.ebay.sun.com Subject: re: Re: Why doesn't Kilbey print lyrics? @@ @@here's an excerpt to the `a smoke a spot's' cover: @@ @@uh, well, if i could find my cd there would be. anyway, @@he (He?) says something about it in that. it's really @@an amazing thing to read anyway. @@ @@.mrg. @@ @@you write: @@>With all the lyrics being posted these days I again wondered why Kilbey @@>is reluctant to print the lyrics of his songs. He obviously has no @@>trouble with printing other forms of poetry, yet as far as I know there @@>have only been a couple Church albums (Heyday and Hindsight come to mind) @@>and no (?) solo albums to have lyrics. What's the hangup? Marty and Peter @@>have lyrics in their solo work, so as far as the Church goes it must be @@>a Kilbey thing. What's the deal? @@> @@>-- @@>Brian @@>barmiyan@wam.umd.edu @@ @@ I think you will find that the ALBUMS (remember them ?) do have all the lyrics up untill the shift of record company (Starfish and after). However, the CD pressings of the earlier stuff missed out on the lyrics. cheers, From matthewk@postoffice.utas.edu.au Sun Mar 20 22:41 PST 1994 From: Matthew Kirkcaldie Subject: Re: Why doesn't Kilbey print lyrics? Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM I read an interview after the release of _Priest=Aura_ in which Kilbey said that he was a bit tired of everyone analysing his lyrics so closely. He said that P=A began as just a great number of jams, from which the band selected those they all liked. He then had just a few days to come up with lyrics, which he said worked out to about half an hour per song. Not much of a lyrics fan, myself. Matthew. From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Mon Mar 21 02:10 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Subject: Re: Why doesn't Kilbey print lyrics? > I read an interview after the release of _Priest=Aura_ in which Kilbey > said that he was a bit tired of everyone analysing his lyrics so closely. I think I read a similar interview (maybe the same one ?) in which he said that he didn't want people to take his songs as poetry. "They are not intended to be heard / read without the music; the music is an integral part of what I'm trying to convey" (That's not really a quote, just my summation of what he said.) My immediate on reading that was: "Great idea, Steve, but it's a bit pointless if no-one can understand what you're saying in the first place !" I think that's amply demonstrated by the numerous postings of the lyrics of the same song, in which we've all heard it slightly differently ! Brian Smith From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Mon Mar 21 11:43 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Mae Moore This goes mostly to Morten and any other list members living in the San Francisco area. Mae Moore is doing 2 shows this week at the Great American Music Hall, opening for the Crash Test Dummies. The shows are monday the 21st (today), and tuesday the 22nd, 8 pm tickets $15. I don't know anything about who will be playing in her band, or if she will even have one. For those of you not in the area, keep an eye out for Crash Test Dummies shows near you, she may just be opening for them in your area as well. -paul From brenta@microsoft.com Mon Mar 21 14:25 PST 1994 X-Msmail-Message-Id: C789D426 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: C789D426 X-Msmail-Wiseremark: These pretzels are making me thirsty From: Brent Aliverti Subject: RE: Mae Moore I remember someone on the list sending out a fairly detailed description of what Margot Smith sounds like, but I'm not sure I saw one for Mae Moore. Can someone describe her sound for me? Thanks! From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Tue Mar 22 12:07 PST 1994 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Subject: Church videos/missing trax Hi all, I was watching the GOLDFISH video over the weekend and couldn't help chuckle at those old videos. How many videos *did* they shoot in that warehouse or whatever it is? They did make some pretty interesting ones too though. "Almost With You" and "It's No Reason" are my faves. It doesn't hurt that those are two of my favourite songs too :) I was wondering if anyone knows if the two tracks that were cut from the REMINDLESSNESS CD are available on CD anywhere. I believe I may have seen a CD single a long time ago that had them on it, but now I'm not so sure. If I picked the darn thing up I wouldn't have to ask! Nothing was listed in the discography. Back to videos, does anyone know how the band feels about them? Do the Church videos really rank up there with Bergman, Fellini and Walt Disney? :) Rich Boston Univ. From mosk Tue Mar 22 12:35 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: RE: Mae Moore > From brenta@microsoft.com Mon Mar 21 14:25:18 1994 > > I remember someone on the list sending out a fairly detailed > description of what Margot Smith sounds like, but I'm not sure I saw > one for Mae Moore. Can someone describe her sound for me? Thanks! > Here's a repost of my original review of the album. At the time I reviewed it, I had only listened to it about 5 times. The review is somewhat lukewarm. But the album gained lots of frequent player mileage and actually ended up as my third favorite album of '93, behind Margot and the Clouds (non-church related, wow!). I highly recommend Mae's album. -morten ----- Begin Included Message ----- >From mosk Mon Sep 13 11:27 PDT 1993 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: MAE MOORE - Bohemia 1992 Bohemia Mae Moore: Vocals, acoustic 6 and 12 string guitars, electric guitar, bass. Steve Kilbey: Acoustic 6 and 12 string guitars, electric guitar, fretless 4 and 6 string basses, keyboards, vocals Ash Sood: Drums, percussion, vocals David Kershaw: piano, Hammond organ, vocals G.W. MacLennan: acoustic and electric guitar, vocals Boris Gordenof: Trumpets, Fender Rhodes piano Stephan Nikleva: Electric guitar on "Western Front" Brian Minato: Fretless bass on "Western Front" Peter Koppes: Electric guitar on "Full Circle" Gord Downie: Vocal on "The Wish" 4:23 Bohemia 3:46 Shape Of Love 4:58 Fall With You 4:45 Because Of Love 4:50 Arrow 3:33 Pieces Of Clay 4:18 Coat Of Shame 4:08 Western Front 4:48 The Wish 5:10 Ophelia 4:20 Full Circle CD TriStar Music WK 57373 (Canada) I was pretty happy when I happened on this album in the clearance bin in my favorite record store during my shopping spree on Friday. For those of you who don't know, Mae Moore is the canadian singer/ songwriter that Steve put his producer wings around and together they came up with this product. And I'll gladly pay $4.50 anyday for any album Steve is involved in. As I listened to this album for the first time, it became pretty obvious to me. This is not a Steve Kilbey Album. For having produced, written the music for 3 of the songs and played on the entire album, there are very few traces of the Kilbey we know. Sure, there are guitars here and there reminiscent of Unearthed and Narcosis, and even one song (Ophelia) that could have been included on the Curious Yellow album, but other than that....nada! I can't even detect his voice in the background vocals! And Grant MacLennan or Peter Koppes involvement doesn't particularly add much to it either. Koppes lead on "Full Circle" is very bland, basically just playing the same notes as the melody line. Now, that doesn't mean this is not a good album. As a matter of fact, it is quite enjoyable, and it seems to grow more and more as I play it. The songs are good, although not very adventurous. There are even a few cliches here and there. But all in all, it's very listenable. Stylistically, it's probably closest to another Canadian singer/songwriter, Sarah MacLachlan (whose first album I adore and second album I detest). Musically, it's lots of acoustic guitars and breathy female vocals. The only song that is keyboard based is the dreamy Ophelia, probably the best track on the album. The title track is also very good, even though the melody line for the chorus is unashamedly stolen from "Another Nail In My Heart" by Squeeze. I would probably never have even looked at this album had Steve not been involved, but I have been playing it a lot over the weekend. It's definetely not Church music, but if you like artists such as the afore- mentioned MacLachlan, Tori Amos, the newer Joni Mitchell stuff etc., this album is recommended. Good female pop-music for lack of a better term. The local Tower store had 5 copies in the import bins, and that's a lot for an unestablished foreign artist. They must be expecting this to sell like hotcakes (or they got them for free). Morten ----- End Included Message ----- From mosk Tue Mar 22 12:47 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Church videos/missing trax > From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Tue Mar 22 12:06:57 1994 > > I was wondering if anyone knows if the two tracks that were cut from > the REMINDLESSNESS CD are available on CD anywhere. I believe I may > have seen a CD single a long time ago that had them on it, but now I'm > not so sure. If I picked the darn thing up I wouldn't have to ask! > Nothing was listed in the discography. > The 2 missing tracks are on a long deleted CD5 called the "No Such Thing" ep (or "Transaction"). I finally managed to get hold of a copy of this myself recently, after looking for it for a couple of years. And yes, the CD5 is listed in the discography. :-) > Back to videos, does anyone know how the band feels about them? Do > the Church videos really rank up there with Bergman, Fellini and Walt > Disney? :) > Ingemar Fellini Disney maybe... :-) I personally love their videos, especially the "UTMW" video, which is one of very few videos that is worth watching more than one time in my (not necessarily) humble opinion. I don't know how they feel about the videos, but haven't videos just become a marketing ploy, and therefore just a thing that has to be done? I don't think many musicians start playing with the goal of releasing videos.... :-) And most videos are made by director-wanna-be's anyway, right? It's their scratch pad for jotting down ideas for the "real" projects.... (Can anyone tell I don't care about videos?) > Rich > Boston Univ. > -morten From matthewk@postoffice.utas.edu.au Tue Mar 22 17:18 PST 1994 From: Matthew Kirkcaldie Subject: Re: Church videos/missing trax Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM On Tue, 22 Mar 1994, Richard F. Delano wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone knows if the two tracks that were cut from > the REMINDLESSNESS CD are available on CD anywhere. I believe I may > have seen a CD single a long time ago that had them on it, but now I'm > not so sure. If I picked the darn thing up I wouldn't have to ask! > Nothing was listed in the discography. The tracks "Random Pan" and "Pain in my Temples" are on the _No Such Thing_ CD EP, released here soon after _Remindlessness_ came out. It made the upgrade from double vinyl (available six months before) to CD very expensive... I don't know if it is still available - I very much doubt it. The CD also has "Transaction" from the EP of the same name (whose tracks are available on the augmented US CD version of _The Slow Crack_). By the way, are the extra tracks on the rerelease of _Unearthed_ worth having? It seems rather a lot of money to get them... Matthew. From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Tue Mar 22 17:29 PST 1994 Subject: Re: Church videos/missing trax From: matthew green >By the way, are the extra tracks on the rerelease of _Unearthed_ worth >having? It seems rather a lot of money to get them... hmm.. someone wanna enlighten me on this? hmmm indeed! From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Tue Mar 22 19:36 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: Mae Moore <9403222035.AA02230@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM> From: matthew green >behind Margot and the Clouds (non-church related, wow!). I highly they're both from sydney.... ;-) From mosk Wed Mar 23 06:28 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Mae Moore > From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Tue Mar 22 19:36:36 1994 > > >behind Margot and the Clouds (non-church related, wow!). I highly > > they're both from sydney.... > > ;-) > I like them anyway!!! :-) -morten From mosk Wed Mar 23 07:15 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Church videos/missing trax > From matthewk@postoffice.utas.edu.au Tue Mar 22 17:18:24 1994 > By the way, are the extra tracks on the rerelease of _Unearthed_ worth > having? It seems rather a lot of money to get them... > > Matthew. The two bonus tracks on the Australian release is the b-side of the "Fireman" single, "Forgetfulness" and "Nonapology". I personally love both of these songs, so to me it was worth it, even though I have both the single and the US cd-version of the album. Then again, I may be a little more fanatic then the rest of you.... :-) -morten From Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Wed Mar 23 08:35 PST 1994 by quickmail.natinst.com (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.1.5) From: Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Organization: National Instruments Subject: Unearthed Unearthed > The two bonus tracks on the Australian release is the b-side of > the "Fireman" single, "Forgetfulness" and "Nonapology". I personally Is this version still in print? If so, could someone post the Cat#, label, etc. so I can order this thing. I must have those two extra tracks :-) thanks, Thad "This isn't death, this is just a textural event" From mosk Wed Mar 23 08:46 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Unearthed > From Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Wed Mar 23 08:35:09 1994 > To: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM (The Church) > Is this version still in print? If so, could someone post the > Cat#, label, etc. so I can order this thing. I must have those > two extra tracks :-) > > thanks, > Thad > "This isn't death, this is just a textural event" I got my copy in November, so I believe it's still in print. It can be ordered from RedEye, the price is (was) 30 australian dollars + postage. Catalogue number is: RED CD 1 -morten From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Wed Mar 23 10:12 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Re: Church videos/missing trax Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > By the way, are the extra tracks on the rerelease of _Unearthed_ worth > having? It seems rather a lot of money to get them... Yes, definately :-) ! -paul From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Mar 24 11:10 PST 1994 Reply-To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Organization: Xymox UUCP System, Melbourne Australia From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: RE: Mae Moore Morten said: > Here's a repost of my original review of the album. At the time I > reviewed it, I had only listened to it about 5 times. The review > is somewhat lukewarm. But the album gained lots of frequent player > mileage and actually ended up as my third favorite album of '93, > behind Margot and the Clouds (non-church related, wow!). :-) Margot's album was your favorite album of 1993? Wow, good taste :) We'll see if the Australian music industry has good taste as well next Wednesday night when the ARIA Awards happen... Meanwhile, here's my review of Mae Moore's album as it appeared in Beat Magazine in Melbourne upon its release last year - just for another take on the album. This was written after about 3 weeks with the album. **** Mae Moore Bohemia (Tristar Music/Sony) This second album for Canada's Mae Moore has taken its time escaping from its home country; released last year there, "Bohemia" has finally appeared almost simultaneously here and in the US. Produced by the increasingly prolific Steve Kilbey and recorded in Sydney, it's an album that falls into the rapidly growing category of music that refuses to tie itself to a particular genre, time or place and instead plays out like a carefully crafted film, oblivious to transient commercial considerations. The title track opens proceedings somewhat deceptively; a lush keyboard and guitar backing provides the soundtrack for a Luka Bloom-style rap on the song's verses. It all gels, however, once the gentle dreamscape of the chorus appears. "Shape Of Love" is as close as this album gets to radio-friendly with a little more quiet rap preceding a song which quite possibly could have turned into a dreadful MOR ballad in the hands of many a producer; Kilbey's extensive contribution in the playing department puts paid to that, thankfully. He also has co-written three of the songs here with Mae; "Fall With You" is the first of them, and it's sublime. Crystalline guitars, phased backing vocals, and Mae's nostalgic lyrics wash in and out of the song like poetry. "Because Of Love" is easily the album's standout track, luring the listener in with a delicate vocal and staccato guitar before launching into the chorus, simultaneously a pop masterpiece and one of the most simple yet seductive things imaginable. And just when you least expect it, a small keyboard-sourced string section appears to firmly stamp the label "perfection" on the song. Things quieten down a notch after this for "Arrow", a mood piece whose quiet nature belies the reflectively bitter lyrics. "Pieces Of Clay" adds Boris Goudenof's trumpet to the mix but the song never quite seems to get to where it's going; "Coat Of Shame" experiments with a gospel-tinged groove with mixed success; Mae's knack for creating killer chorus hooks saves this one. "Western Front" veers dangerously close to country music territory and contains one of the most inappropriate horn sections you'll ever hear, but remains hard to dislike completely. >From here things improve again drastically, firstly with the "The Wish", a slice of string-assisted epic scope that contains a far more appropriate horn section and paints a sweeping picture far beyond the confines of a mere song; "Ophelia" is an exercise in ambient restraint that is simply beautiful, and over all too soon despite being the longest track on the album. The appropriately named "Full Circle" brings things to a logical conclusion with a positive outlook, Killjoys-calibre instrumentation and more of those killer hooks. This album is probably going to get lost in the pre-Christmas frenzy and its so-quiet-you-d-never-know-it-was-out release here. But in what has proven to be quite a year for new music, this is another piece of silvered plastic that your life will be a better place to live in for owning. (8.5/10) ANTHONY HORAN ***** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Thu Mar 24 12:27 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Cc: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Sorry about beating the dead horse, but how about these lyrics to "Narcosis"? (Besides, we have to talk about _something_ until the new album comes out :-) @ALBUM: Narcosis @SONG: Somna The plague burns on and on It's pitiless, it's vivid in the sky (in the sky) The sun glows out and on It's merciless, even when you're up this high (in the sky) And you really think you've got my number Just don't forget, I know who you are I know what you want, maybe just a little somna A woman has lived in my head, these past thirty years Talks in a voice no one can hear With her shoulders of fortune, and her waist of time Soothe your body, change your mind You've got to leave that world behind @SONG: Limbo Ate up the prophets, corrupted the saints Exhausted resources made us ashamed Hollywood won't touch you with a pole Jesus does not love you, Lucifer does not want your soul Made a mistake, no one will forgive you The servants you love to dismiss all will outlive you Set us against eachother, thought it was clever What a fiasco, well I never Such a good baby, such an old man Thanks for the memories, now why don't you scram @SONG: Sleep_With_Me Sleep with me, why don't you sleep with me You can try, try to understand @SONG: Fall_In_Love I knew this man, he had some kind of fate affliction. Each day, a tiny particle, a small drop of his soul, leaked or escaped into the air, out beyond the hints of the grey sky and into dead space. The paranormal specialist could find no way to plug the tiny perforations which dripped his spirit behind him as he went on down the highway. Fall in love with me, fall in love with me It's not impossible Fall in love with me, fall in love with me It's not impossible It was attributed to hashish and opium addiction, excessive womanizing, lashings of money and flattery, and a charmed, but not charming life. Who can describe the agony of this gradual soul depletion? Too cowardly to take his own life, he roamed the cafes and cabarets searching out other wretches who shared his most hideous malady, and they spent their days in sophistry and idle banter, as their essence oozed, and the void moved ever closer. Fred, the man, charlatan bastard, poor piteous doomed puppet, emersed himself in these vices, but this only exacerbated his demise more rapidly. Eventually he could derive pleasure from nothing, the most lurid pornography or the most holy scriptures failed to arouse him from his stupor, his boredom. Great cities, or the endless beautiful plains stretched out before his jaded gaze and disappeared into the nothingness of his feeling. @SONG: Space If you're not a commodity, why are you so scarce Invisible even in your solar flares I battled your intensity You really got propensity To burn, to burn Stumbling 'round the moonscape With the gravity of a feather I know that it's a calamity We just talk of the weather The silver of your sun suit Negates the execute I want to escape, I want to escape Your pull Struggling against the cold Spat at by the torrent Grabbing at little silver fishes Dream fabrique is wishes, washes A hundred leagues under the lake A town down there and then I wake Don't change, don't change Wonder, it's no wonder Wonder, it's no wonder Don't tell me now it's over Over in an instant, instantly over Atoms, starlings, missiles, batteries Cotton, infants, fishes, wishing Breathing, whispers, breakthrough, wicked Nonsense, dirges, princes, fathers Moonlight, flattery, rainbow, orbit Falling, midnight, crashing, tackle Freezing, glowing, cinders, forces Power, sticky, setback, arching Outward, naked, narrow, willing Storming, killing, spinning, happening , kissing, forming, shaking Bottle, hammer, reefer, buddha Mantra, shudder, city -paul From dwp@maths.uq.oz.au Thu Mar 24 15:25 PST 1994 From: Dean Podlich I was just listening to a mixed tape of the Church (pre-Starfish) and no matter how much I try and justify S.Kilbey's (+church) last couple of albums, the first 5-6 years were totally brilliant. I mean there so much of a live feel or something on these early albums that has been lost in the last couple of years. Just look at some of these songs: Chrome Injury, She Never Said, Fighter Pilot , When You Were Mine, Fly, Electric, Travel By Thought, It Doesn't Change, Constant In Opal, Maybe These Boys, Volumes, Shadow Cabinet, Myrrh (The best song for a warm fuzzy feeling), Columbus, Roman, tantalized, Life Speeds Up, The Night Is Very Soft, Trance Ending. They all jump off the record at you. I still love Steve's work but I'd love to see the next album like Seance or Of skins and Heart. I'm still very very disappointed whenever I hear the new release has been put back again. I'm dying to hear it. From dwp@maths.uq.oz.au Thu Mar 24 15:29 PST 1994 From: Dean Podlich I was just thinking . Has anybody got a song listing of the last Church tour. I've got mine at home and I'd just like to compare what songs they played it each city. (i.e. - if they were different) Deano From barmiyan@wam.umd.edu Mon Mar 28 08:40 PST 1994 From: Amy Rebecca Ewing Subject: Remindlessness CD for sale Due to underwhelming response, I am now offering the Remindlessness CD for the low, low price of $20, including shipping. (but feel free to make an offer). Makes a great gift for someone's easter basket! -- Brian barmiyan@wam.umd.edu From balst9+@pitt.edu Mon Mar 28 22:42 PST 1994 From: Bradley A Lewis Subject: GREETING, FELLOW FANATICS Cc: balst9@pitt.edu Howdy! Since I'm just entering this software-limbo, I thought I'd just introduce myself. My name--brad lewis position-in-life--currently a student at U.of Pittsburgh (grad-chem) first-church-encounter--I guess it was back in the summer of '88. I heard UNDER THE MILKYWAY and the air had some command in it.... Phenomenal album. I just worked my way back from there, eventuallly getting all their albums (though I still don't have the SING SONG ep- Does anyone know if it's easily avalilable?) favorite-song--you gotta be kidding! Probably every other song from Heyday and Starfish. God, I'm glad this mailing list exists. I'm just really psyched!;-) From tim@large.equinox.gen.nz Mon Mar 28 22:46 PST 1994 From: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz (Tim lucas) Subject: Release date I was told that the release of the new Church album is being held back untill May because of the fact that every other album has always had May as a release date. Does this sound correct? -Tim From tim@large.equinox.gen.nz Mon Mar 28 22:46 PST 1994 From: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz (Tim lucas) Subject: CD's wanted -Heyday -The Blurred Crusade -Seance I know it's no excuse but I never actually got around to buying those titles on CD and now I can't even find them. Any help would be appreciated. -Tim From dwp@maths.uq.oz.au Mon Mar 28 23:04 PST 1994 From: Dean Podlich Where is everybody??? We all should be excited - a new album is coming out sooooon -hopefully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From rcr@u.washington.edu Tue Mar 29 07:28 PST 1994 Tue, 29 Mar 94 07:28:40 -0800 From: Rhonda Corcoran Subject: Re: CD's wanted Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > -Heyday > -The Blurred Crusade > -Seance > I know it's no excuse but I never actually got around to buying those > titles on CD and now I can't even find them. I'll send this post to the list in case anyone else is interested in finding these on CD. Noteworthy Music, located in New Hampshire is a compact disc mail-order company. I've ordered from them frequently and never had a problem. Here are the CD's you're looking for Tim, with their order #'s and prices. The catalog I'm looking at is from last summer, so you may want to confirm the prices when you call. Have your credit card number ready, or if not that, they will want you to mail in your order. Heyday ARI 8567.T1 $7.55 Blurred Crusade ARI 8564.T1 7.55 Seance ARI 8565.T1 7.55 The number at Noteworthy is 1-800-648-7972. You can probably ask them about this, but for regular UPS Ground shipping, the cost runs: 1-5 cd's $3.75 6-10 cd's 4.00 Hope this helps. The rest of the albums are also available. If anyone wants these order #'s, e-mail me. Rhonda From mosk Tue Mar 29 07:57 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: CD's wanted > From rcr@u.washington.edu Tue Mar 29 07:28:12 1994 > > -Heyday > > -The Blurred Crusade > > -Seance > > I know it's no excuse but I never actually got around to buying those > > titles on CD and now I can't even find them. > > I'll send this post to the list in case anyone else is > interested in finding these on CD. > > Hope this helps. The rest of the albums are also available. If > anyone wants these order #'s, e-mail me. > > Rhonda Most of the stores around here (San Francisco Bay Area) have all the old Church albums for under 10.00. I have never used Noteworthy, but I see them mentioned quite often on the net. Since Tim lives in New Zealand, I doubt Noteworthy will work for him. I'll be more than happy to help you Tim, if no-one more local to you can help out. Just drop me a few bytes.... -morten From Matthew.Wimmer@m.cc.utah.edu Tue Mar 29 13:40 PST 1994 From: Matthew Wimmer Subject: Re: Remindlessness CD for sale Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Makes me feel extremely good that I scored my remindlessness cd for 5 bucks from some bargain bin at a used clothes store. (The places steve turns up). 20 bucks is a good price though, this thing is impossible to find-- I saw the vinyl in a wax trax! store in Boulder for like 40$ US I think-- (curse that day cause I had no cash). Anyway, re lyrics, does anyone hear "hollywood, won't touch you with her gold..." I need to get narcosis on cd. Bye. From brenta@microsoft.com Tue Mar 29 14:41 PST 1994 X-Msmail-Message-Id: 358C974D X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: 358C974D X-Msmail-Wiseremark: These pretzels are making me thirsty From: Brent Aliverti Subject: Re: Remindlessness CD for sale I can top that. I was in a local CD shop at Christmas time when they were having a blowout bargain CD sale. What should be in there, but THE SLOW CRACK and JACK FROST, both for 25 cents (I swear!). Of course I already had them, but I picked them up and gave them to a Church-liking friend. He's still kind of luke-warm on Jack Frost (no pun intended :-), but he's grown to like THE SLOW CRACK a lot, and often tells me that he likes it better than any of the Church albums he has (of course, I think he only has two, and one of them is Gold Afternoon Fix). Re: Remindlessness: I picked mine up for $19 and was really happy that I got a great deal. Within the next two weeks, I saw two more copies: one used for $9.99, the other, an unplayed closeout for $4.44 (arghh!). ---------- From: Matthew Wimmer Cc: Subject: Re: Remindlessness CD for sale Makes me feel extremely good that I scored my remindlessness cd for 5 bucks from some bargain bin at a used clothes store. (The places steve turns up). 20 bucks is a good price though, this thing is impossible to find-- I saw the vinyl in a wax trax! store in Boulder for like 40$ US I think-- (curse that day cause I had no cash). Anyway, re lyrics, does anyone hear "hollywood, won't touch you with her gold..." I need to get narcosis on cd. Bye. From dougj@morgan.ucs.mun.ca Tue Mar 29 16:47 PST 1994 From: Doug Johnston Subject: Re: CD's wanted Cc: Tim lucas , seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Rhonda Corcoran wrote: > The number at Noteworthy is 1-800-648-7972. You can probably ask them > about this, but for regular UPS Ground shipping, the cost runs: > 1-5 cd's $3.75 > 6-10 cd's 4.00 > > Hope this helps. The rest of the albums are also available. If > anyone wants these order #'s, e-mail me. Rhonda, What are the other Church albums/EPs they have? And do they have a Canadian/foreign order phone number (seeing that most 1-800 numbers from the states have a habit of somehow connecting me to Sally Struthers and a National Correspondance School...)? thanks doug j *-------------------------------*-------------------------------------------* | Doug Johnston | Pocqomb d'ar merc'het, | | dougj@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | Rac var arc'hoas nin vo ludet.... | | djohnsto@calvin.stemnet.nf.ca | (Let us kiss the maids, -Breton | | dougj@ganymede.cs.mun.ca | For tomorrow we shall be burned) saying | *-------------------------------*-------------------------------------------* From gsa@panix.com Tue Mar 29 18:12 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: Release date Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > I was told that the release of the new Church album is being held > back untill May because of the fact that every other album has > always had May as a release date. > To my recoleection, Church albums seem to come out 2 years and 1 month after the last. Heyday 1/86 Stafish 2/88 GAF 3/90 P=A 4/92 (however, this one may have been 3/92) From gsa@panix.com Tue Mar 29 18:12 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: CD's wanted Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > -Heyday > -The Blurred Crusade > -Seance > > > I know it's no excuse but I never actually got around to buying those > titles on CD and now I can't even find them. > Tower REcords should have these, and for real cheap. $9 or so. From mosk Tue Mar 29 20:38 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Release date > From gsa@panix.com Tue Mar 29 18:12:32 1994 > > To my recoleection, Church albums seem to come out 2 years and 1 month > after the last. > > Heyday 1/86 > Stafish 2/88 > GAF 3/90 > P=A 4/92 (however, this one may have been 3/92) Yep, P=A was released on March 10th of 92. I know, I was at the store at 10:00am, waiting for them to unwrap them in the back! Pretty interesting theory though.... Btw, I glanced through the latest ICE Newsletter this evening, and on page 5 they said (something like) "Arista will release an additional disc with the first 15 or 20 000 copies of the new Church album, Sometime Anywhere, to be released on May 24th. The 7 additional tracks were recorded during the very prolific recording sessions for the album, and even though they did not fit on the album, they were simply too good to be left unreleased, according to a label spokesman." So there you have it. About as official as it will get until we see the actual album. The question is will the Oz version have 8 bonus tracks and the US version 7? Gawd, it will be two looooong months... -morten From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Wed Mar 30 00:16 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: Re: Release date > Btw, I glanced through the latest ICE Newsletter this evening, > and on page 5 they said (something like) "Arista will release > an additional disc with the first 15 or 20 000 copies of the > new Church album, Sometime Anywhere, to be released on May 24th. > The 7 additional tracks were recorded during the very prolific > recording sessions for the album, and even though they did not > fit on the album, they were simply too good to be left unreleased, > according to a label spokesman." Isn't that a different story to what Steve wrote to you Morten ? For example, the track "Drought" was done ages ago. I thought that the additional CD was like "Spots", full of outtakes and songs that didn't make it onto albums etc... Brian From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Wed Mar 30 04:49 PST 1994 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Kilbey live! >From today's issue of the rather wonderful (hey, I'm biased!) Beat Magazine in Melbourne, Australia: ATTENTION KILBEY FANS Mr Church is performing two exclusive shows at the Continental Cafe on April 29 and 30. What makes these shows so special is (a) they are Steve's first ever solo shows, and (b) there are no plans for The Church to tour this year. The shows will be a casual affair, with Steve asking the audience to request their favorite songs from his fairly ample collection of tunes. Steve will preview songs from the new Jack Frost album, the new Church album and his new project Fake. These shows will sell out in a flash so book now on 510 2788. This news item would have been written by Cameron Adams, probably from a press release. This appearance pretty much implies that the Church album should surface at the start of May... oh yes, and that bboking number for you international travellers is +61 3 510 2788. See you there! :-) - Anthony "wonder if Margot Smith will turn up on stage with Kilbey" Horan -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Wed Mar 30 05:50 PST 1994 Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: Kilbey live! <9403310618.11hr@xymox.apana.org.au> From: matthew green > 29 and 30. What makes these shows so special is (a) they are Steve's first > ever solo shows, and (b) there are no plans for The Church to tour this year. hmm.. why do i have a boot leg of him live solo then? or is this merely lame advertising? .mrg. From ctn2d@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu Wed Mar 30 07:53 PST 1994 30 Mar 94 10:54 EST From: melvin Anthony Horan Subject: Re: Kilbey live! Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM why have i seen him solo? chris Sadly, many children are not even born into families today, but are orphaned even before their birth by the choice of their parents who do not want them. This grieves my heart so. Cherish your children and give them the stable environment they deserve. -The Blessed Virgin Mary, March 7, 1987 From mosk Wed Mar 30 08:02 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Release date > From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Wed Mar 30 00:16:17 1994 > > Isn't that a different story to what Steve wrote to you Morten ? For > example, the track "Drought" was done ages ago. I thought that the > additional CD was like "Spots", full of outtakes and songs that didn't make > it onto albums etc... > > Brian > No. All Steve mentioned was that the track Drought was included because they had just rediscovered a tape of it. It had been lost for 5 years. The rest of it is just Marty and Steve with Tim Powles on drums and Andy Mason at the helms.... -m From mosk Wed Mar 30 08:37 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Kilbey live! > From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Wed Mar 30 04:49:51 1994 > ATTENTION KILBEY FANS > Mr Church is performing two exclusive shows at the Continental Cafe on April > 29 and 30. What makes these shows so special is (a) they are Steve's first > ever solo shows, and (b) there are no plans for The Church to tour this year. > The shows will be a casual affair, with Steve asking the audience to request > their favorite songs from his fairly ample collection of tunes. Steve will > preview songs from the new Jack Frost album, the new Church album and his new > project Fake. These shows will sell out in a flash so book now on 510 2788. > > > This news item would have been written by Cameron Adams, probably from a press > release. This appearance pretty much implies that the Church album should > surface at the start of May... oh yes, and that bboking number for you > international travellers is +61 3 510 2788. See you there! :-) > I've got my tickets! :-) I'll be astral projecting, since I can't afford the air-fare. Actually, if you all sent me $50.... :-) :-) Seriously though, these are not the first solo shows he has given. I have tapes of 3 different solo-shows he has done here in the States, Chicago, 3/90, Baltimore, 10/90 and one in Santa Rosa (?/90). The first 2 are hilarious, Steve is encouraging heckling and he has some great come-backs. His playing is adequate, although he usually messes up at least once per song, and only finishes about half of them. On the last tape, the audience is dead (literally) and Steve actually plays every song to the end, pretty much flawlessly. Musically it's excellent, but I prefer the ones where the audience is participating. I highly recommend anyone (is that 2 or 3 of you darn lucky guys?) to go see him.... And I expect a full report and a tape.... :-) :-) Marty also did at least one solo-show in Chicago in '90, so I don't see why they couldn't do a Church Unplugged tour... :-) -m (going back to day-dreaming now...) From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Wed Mar 30 08:55 PST 1994 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Subject: Re: Kilbey live I have seen both Steve and Marty do solo acoustic shows in Boston. I have never seen the band together though :( Both solo shows were great fun! Steve took requests and wasn't pleased at someone who yelled "A New Season" Has Steve ever done solo shows in Australia? Perhaps that's what the ad meant. Rich Boston Univ. From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Wed Mar 30 13:24 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Release date I was in San Francisco the other day, and i also saw a board of upcoming releases. The Church album was listed under "Coming in May" :-( Maybe we should all count on adding it to our Christmas lists! -paul From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Wed Mar 30 17:28 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: RE: Kilbey live! [Great news of Kilbey show deleted] I just booked ! The lady on the phone said I was the first caller, which surprised me. Tickets are $44 (with three course meal) or $15 for the "Cattle Space". Doors open 9.30 pm, show starts at 10. And no, she said, I don't get to meet him just because I bought the first ticket ! Brian Smith From gsa@panix.com Wed Mar 30 18:42 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: Kilbey live! Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > ATTENTION KILBEY FANS > Mr Church is performing two exclusive shows at the Continental Cafe on April > 29 and 30. What makes these shows so special is (a) they are Steve's first > ever solo shows, and (b) there are no plans for The Church to tour this year. > The shows will be a casual affair, with Steve asking the audience to request > their favorite songs from his fairly ample collection of tunes. Steve will > preview songs from the new Jack Frost album, the new Church album and his new > project Fake. These shows will sell out in a flash so book now on 510 2788. > This is not true. I have seen Steve myself 3 times doing solo shows in the New York Area. He played Jack Frost stuff, Solo and Church Material. So "first ever" must mean first Australian ever. From balst9+@pitt.edu Wed Mar 30 22:24 PST 1994 From: Bradley A Lewis Sender: Bradley A Lewis Reply-To: Bradley A Lewis Subject: Re: GREETING, FELLOW FANATICS Cc: "seance@thechurch." On Tue, 29 Mar 1994, Richard F. Delano wrote: > Good luck finding Sing Songs. It's a rare find. I actually found it after > giving up on it. I only paid something like $10 for it too. A steal. Do > you have Hindsight? It's a bit expensive, but has some great B-sides on it. Hey Rich, just how good is Sing Songs? You really lucked out getting it for only ten bucks-- I don't think I ever saw it advertised but in a discography in an old record collecting magazine ( I don't recall which magazine) they quoted a price of sixty dollars. Pretty steep for a six (?) track EP, huh? As far as Hindsight goes, I have both it and "Spot's" and I think both are phantastic-- Sorta strange, isn't it, that these are b-sides and outtakes? Thanks for the welcome, Rich! I'm still sorta new to this whole e-mailing list stuff; I hope I'm not making any electronic faux-pas. It's nice to hear from other people on the list. Gotta go;-) From balst9+@pitt.edu Wed Mar 30 22:33 PST 1994 From: Bradley A Lewis Subject: Re: Kilbey live! Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM On Wed, 30 Mar 1994, Anthony Horan wrote: > >From today's issue of the rather wonderful (hey, I'm biased!) Beat Magazine > in Melbourne, Australia: > > ATTENTION KILBEY FANS > their favorite songs from his fairly ample collection of tunes. Steve will > preview songs from the new Jack Frost album, the new Church album and his new > project Fake. These shows will sell out in a flash so book now on 510 2788. So, what's the deal on: A) this new Jack Frost album? Is it still Steve and that Go-Betweens fellow? ; and B) his new project Fake? Lotts of stuff going on and no one told me??? BYE!:-) From leong@aussie.enet.dec.com Wed Mar 30 23:24 PST 1994 From: "Geoff, CSS Eng. Sydney Australia, 61 2 561 6518 31-Mar-1994 1719 +1000" Cc: leong@aussie.enet.dec.com Apparently-To: seance@thechurch.ebay.sun.com Subject: re: Kilbey live Hi, SO is they Kilbey playing in Sydney at any time ?? cheers Geoff From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Mar 31 06:48 PST 1994 Reply-To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Organization: Xymox UUCP System, Melbourne Australia From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Kilbey live! Various resposes to my post of news of Kilbey solo and live in Melbourne: Matthew "margot woz robbed" Green: > hmm.. why do i have a boot leg of him live solo then? > > or is this merely lame advertising? Morten: > Seriously though, these are not the first solo shows he has given. > I have tapes of 3 different solo-shows he has done here in the States, > Chicago, 3/90, Baltimore, 10/90 and one in Santa Rosa (?/90). Gary Assa: > This is not true. I have seen Steve myself 3 times doing solo shows in > the New York Area. He played Jack Frost stuff, Solo and Church Material. > So "first ever" must mean first Australian ever. Okay, okay already! :-) I checked with Cameron at Beat re his sources, and as I suspected, it was a press release sent by The Continental. No-one from there was aware of the overseas solo shows, but insist that this is the first time that he's performed solo in Australia. The collective memories of myself and the rest of the gang at Beat tend to agree on that count. Anthony "wonder if the sound guy will let me plug my DAT into the desk" Horan -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Thu Mar 31 11:44 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: RE: Kilbey live! Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM So does that mean you can get us all Steve and Marty's phone numbers? :-) -paul From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Thu Mar 31 11:48 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Re: Kilbey live! Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Re. the new Jack Frost, in a letter from Steve he said it's supposed to be out in June, titled "Dead Cool Snow Job". but then again, in the same letter he said "new Church in March"......... -paul From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Thu Mar 31 16:39 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: RE: Kilbey live! > So does that mean you can get us all Steve and Marty's phone > numbers? :-) > -paul > CAN is such a subjective word....but if I did, they'd probably complain to Telecom, who would then do something Nasty and Corporate to certain parts of my body, which should remain untouched. Brian "A little Knowledge Is A Dangerous (and bloody frustrating) Thing" Smith From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Wed Apr 6 19:56 PDT 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Subject: Hidden Treasures Hi people, To tide me over until IT comes out, I just got Hidden Treasures by Ann Carlberger (for those of you who aren't fanatical enough, she's Marty's wife.) All the songs are written by Marty, so it should be a good album...especially since it was only $A5 ! *Dons the earphones and presses play* Brian From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Wed Apr 6 20:03 PDT 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Subject: Hidden Treasures: Progress Report Uuuurrrrgghh.....a bit forgettable so far. Far too much Ann and not enough Marty. This is not surprising, but I was hoping against hope that there would be more of Him than her. Her accent is a bit annoying, and her voice isn't really suited to singing "Marty-ish" lyrics. But for 5 dollars and for the sake of Having It All, it's worth it. Brian "Roll on May" Smith From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Wed Apr 6 20:12 PDT 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Subject: Here's a bit of fame for Skilbey He's be named by Beat magazine as "Most Sleep-Inducing Performance" when he did his poetry reading at The Lounge. Don't know if that's good or not....probably not actually ! Mr. Horan, you work for Beat magazine don't you ? Brian From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Apr 7 10:23 PDT 1994 Reply-To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Organization: Xymox UUCP System, Melbourne Australia From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Here's a bit of fame for Skilbey Brian Smith writes: > He's be named by Beat magazine as "Most Sleep-Inducing Performance" when he > did his poetry reading at The Lounge. Don't know if that's good or > not....probably not actually ! It's quite amusing...! That was not Beat naming him that, if you read the heading of that section. It was the Polyester Records Alternative ARIA Awards, compiled as a joke by Debbie at Polyester and faxed to Beat by them knowing that it'd probably get printed. > Mr. Horan, you work for Beat magazine don't you ? Yup. Don't hold it against me. :-) Mr Kilbey's quite fond of Beat, after the Margot Smith coverage and Mae Moore album review by, errm, one of our writers. :) - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From Matthew.Wimmer@m.cc.utah.edu Thu Apr 7 14:48 PDT 1994 From: Matthew Wimmer Subject: hex I pulled out hex and was listening to it the other night. I only have a copy (sorry steve) and I was wondering, just how involved was Kilbey in the thing? I don't particularly like hex, some tracks like diviner are great, but overall I just keep wishing steve was singing instead of Danette or whatever her name is. Maybe I should get a vocals removing thing-- That's another thought that came to me, if the vocals were gone it would sound like something between earthed and remindlessness-- which I guess it is. I've never really seen anybody discuss Hex in detail on here. Anybody a huge fan? bye. From Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Thu Apr 7 15:23 PDT 1994 by quickmail.natinst.com (PostalUnion/SMTP 1.1.5) From: Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com Organization: National Instruments Subject: Re: hex re> hex > but overall I just keep wishing steve was singing instead of > Danette or whatever her name is. Maybe I should get a vocals removing > thing-- That's another thought that came to me, if the vocals were gone > it would sound like something between earthed and remindlessness-- which I > guess it is. I've never really seen anybody discuss Hex in detail on > here. Anybody a huge fan? bye. Yes, I am. I love both Hex albums, and probably like _Hex_ a little more than _Vast Halos_, but only by a small margin. Then again, I love Donette's voice, so that would make a big difference if her voice doesn't do anything for you. I'm a sucker for pretty female vocals. :-) Try listening to "An Arrangement" - it's too short, but it's (for me) an absolutely wonderful song. As far as I know, Kilbey wrote most of the music for both albums. Still, I thin these albums could have been even better if both Steve and Donette had done vocals. Oh well, I guess that will just be a dream. later on, Thad "This isn't death, this is just a textural event" From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Thu Apr 7 17:50 PDT 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: RE: hex > I pulled out hex and was listening to it the other night. I only have a > copy (sorry steve) and I was wondering, just how involved was Kilbey in > the thing? I don't particularly like hex, some tracks like diviner are > great, but overall I just keep wishing steve was singing instead of > Danette or whatever her name is. Maybe I should get a vocals removing > thing-- That's another thought that came to me, if the vocals were gone > it would sound like something between earthed and remindlessness-- which I > guess it is. I've never really seen anybody discuss Hex in detail on > here. Anybody a huge fan? bye. I've got the second Hex album "Vast Haloes", and I really like it. Her voice suits the songs, a couple of which sound really Kilbey to me: Centaur springs to mind. It reminds me of Random Pan and Othertime in the way that it packs a whole lot into a short song. I find Steve's really good at "quickies" like Random Pan, Starling St, Othertime and Don't Look Back (B. Crusade) etc... The best track on Vast Haloes is probably "Hollywood in Winter", always get a kick out of that one. I haven't heard the first album, but you can't go wrong getting the second one IMHO. As for removing the vocals, I think you'd end up with, erm, Vast Haloes without vocals. It would sound particularly "swirling" or anything: the backing tracks are mostly pretty straightforward. BTW, has anyone else here heard Ann Carlberger's "Hidden Treasures" (the one I mailed everyone about yesterday ?) Did anyone like it ? I've decided that when I listen to it, I'll mentally filter out her voice and put Marty's in instead ! L8R Brian From mosk Thu Apr 7 18:19 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Hidden Treasures: Progress Report > From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Wed Apr 6 20:03:23 1994 > > Uuuurrrrgghh.....a bit forgettable so far. Far too much Ann and not enough > Marty. This is not surprising, but I was hoping against hope that there > would be more of Him than her. Her accent is a bit annoying, and her voice > isn't really suited to singing "Marty-ish" lyrics. But for 5 dollars and > for the sake of Having It All, it's worth it. > > Brian "Roll on May" Smith > Personally I think Hidden Treasures is a fine album. It's the missing link musically between Marty's Rhyme and Spirit Level. Overall, I think this album is a very well crafted piece of Swedish pop-music. And that's a compliment, I think the Swedes have a knack for a great pop-sound on a lot of their albums! Ok, so I would have preferred Marty to sing the vocals, but Ann's voice suffices in most cases IMO. And the accent doesn't bother _me_ that much.... :-) When you're Scandehoovian and it's cold all the time, you talk, sing, dream, eat and write with an accent anyway... :-) Marty does a fine version of "Here Come The Tears" on the "Live at the Lounge Ax" tape, which he prefaces with a comment going something like this: "When my girlfriend got a recording deal, she snuck into my room and stole a half a dozen of my best new songs. So don't blame me if my next album isn't any good." Vat a yoker dat maan is.... -morten From mosk Thu Apr 7 18:57 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: hex I am a huge fan also. But I liked Donette before she teamed up with Steve anyway. For those of you who can, get hold of a copy of Game Theory's "Lolita Nation" and play the track "Look Away", which Donette wrote, sings and plays lead on. This lady kicks butt big time, it's a helluva song in my ears. And nothing like any of the Hex stuff. From my perspective though, what I love and adore about Steve's solo projects is his chameleon-like abilities to change styles depending on who he works with, and still be an integral part of it (Marty has some of the same abilities, but on a smaller scale). I'm not so sure I would trade the Hex albums for a version that only had Steve's voice on them. Although on certain songs it would be great if Steve and Donette shared the vocals (like Steve and Karin do on Curious Blues' "Isabella"). I think the Hex project originally was meant to be a solo album from Donette which Steve happened to get involved in somehow. And I think Donette contributed quite a lot to the albums. In the one video I have seen of Hex, Donette is the main focus, I'm not even convinced Steve is in the clip at all (although there is an odd-looking person with sunglasses (no it's not Bono) sitting on a chair in the orchestra in the background which could be him) The first album sound a bit "thrown together" (some songs don't quite fit in with the rest) but has a few wonderful tracks (i.e. Silvermine), while the second album, is excellent all the way through.... Yum. -morten From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Fri Apr 8 10:25 PDT 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Hex I am yet another Hex fan, although I prefer the first album over the second. As far as how the whole thing got started, I don't think it was a solo project for Donnette that Steve got involved in. I remember hearing in an interview or solo show or somewhere, Steve say that he was in New York and had 2 weeks of studio time, so he called up Donnette and said "let's do an album". As far as credit goes, I think the liner notes just say "all songs Kilbey and Thayer" or something like that. It's not clear who (if anyone) played the major role. -paul P.S. i also like Steve's "prose" on the "Hex" liner notes better than her's :-) From Matthew.Wimmer@m.cc.utah.edu Fri Apr 8 11:30 PDT 1994 From: Matthew Wimmer Sender: Matthew Wimmer Reply-To: Matthew Wimmer Subject: hex I think Thad had the right idea when he was saying it would be great if steve and donette sang together. Dual sex vocals can really sound great, as in Sonic Youth on Cotton Crown, Stipe and Merchant, Stipe and Indigo Girls on Kid Fears, etc. Has Steve ever done anything like that? Maybe w/curious yellow? How about Marty on Hidden Treasures? If so, that is something I would love to hear. Also, does anyone know what's up with Koppes these days? Is he coming out with a new album, playing for anyone, or what? Thanks... From tlovell@eng.umd.edu Fri Apr 8 12:28 PDT 1994 From: Thomas Alan Lovell Subject: Re: hex dated: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 18:57:34 +0800 ditto on the game theory comments: i was somewhat of a game theory fan before hex came into existence, but listening to the 2 hex albums has certainly caused to listen to albums like "lolita nation" in a much different light. and the "ethereal" quality of thayer's voice--and of the hex albums in general--makes me want to compare her to 2 other church-related females, mae moore & margot smith (although my experience listening to these two is MARGINAL at best). anyone agree/disagree? btw, do kilbey/thayer have plans for any future hex projects??? alan From mosk Fri Apr 8 12:38 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Stuff for sale It's time to make room for new stuff again, so I am selling the following: All prices are in US dollars A small postage fee will be added (2-3 bucks in the US). E-mail me first to reserve (sold on first come basis) And I am still taking requests for the "wanted" items on your lists, but note that I have no source for "Narcosis" at the moment, but I'll be happy to put you on my list.... -morten CD's: Steve: - Unearthed cde-73297 (US version) $15.00 - The Slow Crack Rough US 70 CD (sealed) $10.00 Church: - Feel CD5 Mushroom D 11215 (Oz) $15.00 Curious Yellow: - Charms & Blues RED CD 13 (Oz) $27.00 Good ol' vinyl ($5.00 each unless specified): Church: - Of Skins And Heart EMI Parlophone EMC 251 - The Church (Canadian rel.) Capitol ST-12193 - The Church (French rel.) Carrere 67.845 - The Blurred Crusade Carrere CAL 140 - Seance EMI Parlophone PCSO 7590 - Remote Luxury Warner Bros. 25152-1 - Heyday Warner Bros. 25370-1 - Starfish Arista AL-8521 - Hindsight 1980 - 1987 (Double) EMI PCSO 430060/1 $ 20.00 Steve: - Unearthed (US) Enigma ST-73297 - The Slow Crack (AUS) Red Eye RED 15 - The Slow Crack (UK) Rough Trade ROUGH US 70 - Remindlessness (Double) RED LP 11 $ 20.00 - This Asphalt Eden EMI 7" $ 15.00 - This Asphalt Eden RED 1 7" $ 15.00 - Fireman RED 13 7"(red vinyl) $ 15.00 From mosk Fri Apr 8 12:57 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: hex > From tlovell@eng.umd.edu Fri Apr 8 12:28:32 1994 > > and the "ethereal" quality of thayer's voice--and of the hex albums > in general--makes me want to compare her to 2 other church-related females, > mae moore & margot smith (although my experience listening to these two is > MARGINAL at best). anyone agree/disagree? > I don't think either Mae or Margot sound anything like Hex, maybe with the exception for "Ophelia" on Mae's album. I think the Curious Yellow sound is a lot closer to Hex than anything else.... To me etheral means something like "a fog (or energy) that surrounds your being and leaves you in a daydreamy state" ,which is the feeling I get when I listen to Hex (Vast Halos especially)... Margot definetely wakes you up now and then (although the cover makes me very "etheral" :-), and Mae I would classify closer to folk rock or "female rock" in the Tori Amos / Sarah McLaughlan category. > btw, do kilbey/thayer have plans for any future hex projects??? No. I believe the relationship has ended (maybe Karin got pissed? :-) Steve certainly seems to pick good-looking women to work with! :-) > > alan > -m From balst9+@pitt.edu Fri Apr 8 13:52 PDT 1994 From: Bradley A Lewis Sender: Bradley A Lewis Reply-To: Bradley A Lewis Subject: The goods Cc: "seance@thechurch." Hi Morten, It would be great of you if you would send me that info on getting Sing Song. I have heard too that it went for around sixty dollars but that was a few years ago. Secondly , is that Feel CD5 just a bunch of remixes of Feel ( including a sort of "urban" mix). I have a vinyl 12" like that. If it is something different, I might be interested in it if it's still around. And lastly, what's "Curious Yellow"? --Brad. From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Fri Apr 15 10:58 PDT 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: idle chatter It's pretty quiet out there these days. Everyone's just sitting around waiting for THE DAY I suppose. So here's something that may liven things up a little. What's the best song to hear the Church do live? In my opinion, it has to be "You Took". I have heard it on a number of bootlegs now, and it's never quite the same. I think the great thing about it is it's length, giving Peter & Marty plenty of time to jam. I also really like the way it mellows out before the guitar solos, and then crescendos (sp?) into what seems to be almost random noise, before Marty & Peter suddenly pull out the melody again and bring it back to the foreground. I think it's also a great song to end a show with, whip the crowd up into a buzz before they go home. And for those of you who have seen the video of the Milan 1988 show, the images of Marty climbing on the drum kit and thrashing his rickenbacker make that version particularly orgasmic. So my vote is cast. What is the best live church song? Anyone esle care to share their opinion? After all, we've got to talk about something. -paul From JOLLEYJ@caedm.et.byu.edu Fri Apr 15 11:32 PDT 1994 Fri, 15 Apr 94 12:33:04 GMT-7 From: "Jeff Jolley" Subject: test1-ignore Priority: normal this is a test From kallista@netcom.com Fri Apr 15 12:11 PDT 1994 From: kallista@netcom.com (Christopher Barrus) Subject: Best live song Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "Tantalized" Without a doubt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barrus - kallista@netcom.com "Sacred cows make the best hamburger" - Abbie Hoffman '72 Buick Riviera - Peace through superior automotive power! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From PSLAKE@SUVM.SYR.EDU Mon Apr 18 16:27 PDT 1994 Mon, 18 Apr 94 19:26:46 LCL From: PSLAKE@SUVM.SYR.EDU Hello fellow Church fans! No, I'm not a new member, I've just been lurking around in the background for some time. Well, since there doesn't seem to be much traffic on the list at the moment, I figured I'd finally come out of hiding and address Paul's question (favorite live songs). That's a tough one, just as naming my favorite song overall would be. I'd agree that You Took is certainly an excellent choice, especially what Paul said about "Whipping the crowd into a frenzy before they go home" (something like that). That's an excellent show closer! But I just listened to a new (well, new to me) live recording I got (which ends with You Took, incidentally), and the performance of "When You Were Mine" just put me in awe. Wow! So, that's my choice. -Dave From mosk Mon Apr 18 20:17 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Best live song My favorite live song used to be "When You Were Mine".... Until San Francisco '88 when I discovered how superbly they did "Shadow Cabinet" live, without the keyboard (or whatever it is) interfering.... A real gem. Then, when hearing the "Jokes..." bootleg, NSEW took over as favorite live track.... But I do have to agree with Paul that the version of "You Took" on the Milan tape is superb too, although I think the accompanying images are just as spinetingling as the music. Marty is really having a good time... :-) A while back I compiled a list of which songs they played most frequently, judging from the tapes that exist. During the 9 concerts surveyed, "Tantalized" was played 7 times, "You Took" and "When You Were Mine" 6 each. If there's time and interest, I will post the list at some point.... Btw, aren't we getting awfully close to the Oz release date? According to RedEye (back in Feb) a single would be out 2 weeks before the album. Anyone seen anything yet??? -morten From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Tue Apr 19 11:39 PDT 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs23.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Subject: World Wide Web! Cc: I have created a World Wide Web page for the Church. I have inserted links to a page about our mailing list, Seance, and to ftp.uwp.edu for lyrics and the discography. Please let me know if you have any problems with any of the links, or if you have any suggestions for improvement. Please remember that the lyrics site is often unavailable during business hours. The page is located at: http://www.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs/user/vernon/www/church.html --Vernon. From jsalfonso@ucdavis.edu Tue Apr 19 18:53 PDT 1994 From: jsalfonso@ucdavis.edu Subject: Reckless Kelly I just saw an advertisement on TV for this movie - the one that Steve had written some song for. I guess it finally made its way to the states. Starring Australian "sensation" (*cough*) Yahoo Serious, it looks like some Road Warrior pseudo-parody, perhaps, though I didn't really pay much attention to the commercial. One thing I did note was that Alexei Sayle appears in this film as well, which I think is enough reason to go see it (if the Kilbey song isn't enough for you, that is)... later, joe ---------- ez014714@bullwinkle.ucdavis.edu From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Tue Apr 19 21:37 PDT 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: RE: World Wide Web! > I have created a World Wide Web page for the Church. > I have inserted links to a page about our mailing list, Seance, > and to ftp.uwp.edu for lyrics and the discography. Excellent idea ! May I humbly suggest a photographs section ? I have some pictures which I could get scanned; I'm sure others would like to see 'non-magazine' photographs. Also, and I know this is much more work, how about getting people to type up whatever magazine articles they have and sending them along. I remember doing a couple about a year ago, and I have many more too ! Brian From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Wed Apr 20 05:17 PDT 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs22.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Subject: Re: World Wide Web! Cc: >May I humbly suggest a photographs section ? I have some pictures which I >could get scanned; I'm sure others would >like to see 'non-magazine' photographs. Also, and I know this is much >more work, how about getting people to type up whatever magazine articles >they have and sending them along. I remember doing a couple about a year >ago, and I have many more too ! Our scanner is not yet hooked up so I can't get anything scanned in. This is what I would like to have for inclusion: nice gifs of head shots of Steve, Marty, Peter, Richard and Jay Dee (if available) individual gifs of each album cover for the band, including the hard to find EPs, but not bootlegs. individual gifs of the solo album covers, but not the album covers of their other bands. a nice summary of the history of the band in text (I'll convert it to HTML) and, eventually, an extended history. bio's on each band member (b-day, physical stats, place of birth, etc). I'm not too keen on the idea of putting copyrighted articles on the Web without permission. I'm not sure yet what the situation is with copyrighted materials and I don't want to get in any trouble. --Vernon. From mosk Wed Apr 20 06:52 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: T-shirts I have been toying with the idea of making up some special t-shirts for this mailing list... Does that sound like a good idea? All I need is a good picture (gif or jpeg) and / or some creative lettering (art) work.... Anyone have any pics or want to create a "logo" for us??? -morten From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Wed Apr 20 09:48 PDT 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: World Wide Web I guess this goes to Vernon, but anyone else with appropriate info can respond. I am very interested in the World Wide web page you talked about, but have no idea what it really means, or how to get to it. Unfortunately, using the "reply" function for my e-mail messages is about the limit of my network knowledge, and there are probably a few other members out there in a similar situation (if not, I'll just crawl ashamedly back into my collection and be quiet). Could someone please give a quick guide to finding & using that info? It would certainly help me, and probably a few others. Thanks -paul Oh yeah, I know how to ftp as well (I'm trying to restore a little dignity here :-) From gsa@panix.com Sat Apr 23 20:05 PDT 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: arista???? This is really for Morten: I saw in alt.m.a that you posted a message, and smoe guy from arita wirte back, or you left his message (i coudln't tell). Anyway, his address was left as dave@arista (or some other name), but the mail bounces back to me. Do you know his really address??? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * The first thing we do let's kill all the lawyers _Shakespeare * ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Sun Apr 24 08:52 PDT 1994 Reply-To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Organization: Xymox UUCP System, Melbourne Australia From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Best live song In apana.lists.music.the-church, article <9404190317.AA01112@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM>, you wrote: > Btw, aren't we getting awfully close to the Oz release date? > According to RedEye (back in Feb) a single would be out 2 weeks > before the album. Anyone seen anything yet??? According to Festival Records, Mushroom's distributor here, expect the Church album, with bonus disc, in about 3 weeks for media samples and 4 weeks for release. No word on singles at all, and I had a peek at the production schedule without finding anything (they may already have long been pressed); I'll be talking to Mushroom tomorrow so I'll post what I find out. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mosk Mon Apr 25 08:15 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: arista???? > From gsa@panix.com Sat Apr 23 20:05:35 1994 > > This is really for Morten: > I saw in alt.m.a that you posted a message, and smoe guy from arita > wirte back, or you left his message (i coudln't tell). Anyway, his > address was left as dave@arista (or some other name), but the mail > bounces back to me. Do you know his really address??? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > * The first thing we do let's kill all the lawyers _Shakespeare * > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Umm....You mean Bill@Arista, right??? I scanned the newsgroup today and found a message from him.... It's been at least 3 weeks since I posted to the group, btw... Anyway, it looks like his e-mail address is : madhouse94@aol.com (no mail has bounced back in the 15 minutes since I mailed him... :-) I'll forward my reply to him separately.... -m From mosk Mon Apr 25 08:16 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Any news on the Church? ----- Begin Included Message ----- From mosk Mon Apr 25 08:08:28 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Any news on the Church? Cc: mosk@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM In article lpt@search01.news.aol.com, madhouse94@aol.com (MADHOUSE94) writes: >In article <2locje$bjk@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, mosk@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM (Morten >Skjefte) writes: > >New Church album to be released May 24, 1994 -- "Sometime Anywhere". There >will be a regular album release as well as a special double cd release which >will contain a bonus cd of all new material. Any more questions or comments >email me. > >Bill@Arista Bill, I was just made aware of your reply this morning.... You mean you are actually an enployee of Arista Records??? If so, that's fantastic! And, yes, you bet I have more questions.... :-) Is it possible to get the complete track listing of the US double cd release??? Steve Kilbey sent me the track listing for the Australian release (or at least the names of the tracks they delivered to Mushroom in November) and there have been some questioning as to whether all these tracks actually will be on the US release... So if you can help clearify, that would be great.... Also, are there any single releases expected from the album??? According to RedEye Records in Sydney, Mushroom is (or at least was) planning a CD5 release, although I was not able to obtain any track info.... Any info you can provide would be greatly appreciated.... Just for the record, I also have a Church e-mail list going, with about 60 subscribers around the world (Australia, Sweden, Norway, Taiwan, the UK and the US). If you want to say hello (or post any info about the new release) feel free! The address is: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM I'm looking forward to hearing from you..... -morten ----- End Included Message ----- From kallista@netcom.com Mon Apr 25 10:50 PDT 1994 From: kallista@netcom.com (Christopher Barrus) Subject: Church in the U.S. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI to everybody in the Southern California area... 91X radio in San Diego has been announcing a special concert with a bunch of different bands (The Charlatans, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, etc.) INCLUDING a "special acoustic performance by The Church." Sorry, but I don't have any more information than that. The show sold out in ten minutes (no, I didn't get tickets) and the only way to get them now is to win them from the station. As soon as I have more info I'll post here. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barrus - kallista@netcom.com "Sacred cows make the best hamburger" - Abbie Hoffman '72 Buick Riviera - Peace through superior automotive power! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From madhouse94@aol.com Mon Apr 25 11:53 PDT 1994 From: madhouse94@aol.com Sender: "madhouse94" Subject: New Church cd Morten -- I hope this helps: The sing cd release will contain: Day of the Dead Lost My Touch Loveblind My Little Problem The Maven Angelica Lullaby Eastern 2 Places At Once Business Woman Authority Fly Home Dead Man's Dream The bonus cd will contain: Drought Time Being Leave Your Clothes On Cut In Two Myths You Made Freeze To Burn Macabre Tavern The album is scheduled to be released May 24th. If anyone has any further questions or comments, please email me. Bill@Arista From madhouse94@aol.com Mon Apr 25 11:56 PDT 1994 From: madhouse94@aol.com Sender: "madhouse94" Subject: new church cd Morten -- I hope this helps: The sing cd release will contain: Day of the Dead Lost My Touch Loveblind My Little Problem The Maven Angelica Lullaby Eastern 2 Places At Once Business Woman Authority Fly Home Dead Man's Dream The bonus cd will contain: Drought Time Being Leave Your Clothes On Cut In Two Myths You Made Freeze To Burn Macabre Tavern The album is scheduled to be released May 24th. If anyone has any further questions or comments, please email me. Bill@Arista From mosk Mon Apr 25 12:07 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Any news on the Church? Well, here's Bill's reply.... (and he just posted the track listing to the alias...) Pretty neat to have a foot in the door at Arista.... :-) The only problem with adding him to the list that I can see is our open discussions on bootlegs.... I don't know how record companies look at this (but I have read horror-stories). What do you guys think?? Anthony, you probably have some good "insiders" info on this.... -morten ----- Begin Included Message ----- From madhouse94@aol.com Mon Apr 25 11:47:31 1994 From: madhouse94@aol.com Subject: Re: Any news on the Church? Thank you for your post. I will indeed send you a track listing of the double cd asap. I am an employee of Arista records, so if I can help you in anyway feel free to ask. Can you place me as a subscriber to your Church mailing list. It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again. Bill@Arista ----- End Included Message ----- From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Mon Apr 25 12:30 PDT 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs21.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Subject: Re: New Church cd Cool! Before everyone goes emailing messages to Bill, I suggest we co-ordinate our queries through Morten, since he is the one who first contacted Bill, and so that Bill doesn't get swamped with messages and begin discouraging our contacting him. :) This is, of course, assuming Morten wants to assume that mantle... And my question is: is there anyway to order directly from Arista to make sure we get a copy of the bonus cd?? --Vernon. From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Mon Apr 25 12:38 PDT 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs21.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Morten.Skjefte@EBay.Sun.COM (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Any news on the Church? Cc: Well, Morten, if Bill gets his hands on a copy of your Church discography, you might catch some of his wrath, since you have a listing of boots in there -- even if we decide to let him on and forego discussing boots. Alternately, would it be possible for you set up a duplicate mailing list (say, seance-boots) where we could discuss boots openly? I don't know if this a possibility or not, but I thought I'd throw it out as an idea. If not, and if the size of the mailing list file is relatively small, I could set up that seance-boots myself (I already maintain a handful of other lists). --Vernon. From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Mon Apr 25 12:44 PDT 1994 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Subject: Re: New Church cd I agree with Vernon that perhaps Morten should contact Bill instead of all of us sending pretty much the same questions to him. I guess a list administrators job is never done, eh Morten? :) Morten raises a good point about discussing bootlegs. Perhaps we can refer to them as "Special imports" as many record stores in my area do. My question to Bill is Morten's question: What about singles? Are any planned? What about any kind of tour? Blah, blah, blah... Rich Boston Univ. From mosk Mon Apr 25 14:18 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: New Church cd > From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Mon Apr 25 12:44:27 1994 > > I agree with Vernon that perhaps Morten should contact Bill instead of > all of us sending pretty much the same questions to him. I guess a list > administrators job is never done, eh Morten? :) > I don't mind collecting questions for Bill if that's what you guys want... It's not that much work with the invention of cut-and-paste :-) > Morten raises a good point about discussing bootlegs. Perhaps we can > refer to them as "Special imports" as many record stores in my area do. > Having boots in the discography doesn't mean much (although I could create a sensored version). It just means I know about them... :-) I don't think it's illegal to buy bootlegs, (after all, even Steve said he had picked up one) but selling and trading is somewhat borderline... :-) Even though we do mostly trades on the list, it may raise a red flag. I could easily set up a secondary mailing list, but that may not be good enough.... I'll have to mull this one over for a while.... :-) Any other suggestions are welcome.... > My question to Bill is Morten's question: What about singles? Are any > planned? What about any kind of tour? Blah, blah, blah... I did ask him about a single, but he didn't reply to that question.... > > Rich > Boston Univ. > -m From wimmer@anthro.utah.edu Mon Apr 25 14:54 PDT 1994 From: Matt Wimmer Subject: record company dude I really don't think the guy is going to be that uptight about it. I mean, be a little cautious, and mail direct to other people rather than to the whole group if you're fixing up a trade. If you want to announce that you have something to trade, do like this: It came to my attention that a friend of a friend of mine that he had the following bootlegs to trade: (bootlegs). However, I frown upon this non FCC sanctioned practice and would never do such a thing, so don't contact ME!! Bootlegs are wrong! I knew reading the alt.drugs newsgroup would be useful sometime. Or maybe just ask the guy if he has a problem with it. Probably, he really won't care. Only the most technically minded would say that trading bootlegs by a small group of die hard fans does any serious harm to the company. Could be wrong here, I don't know anyone from the record industry, but it seems worth a shot. From frederic@ncat.edu Mon Apr 25 20:02 PDT 1994 From: "Frederic B. Jones" Subject: Re: new church cd On Mon, 25 Apr 1994 madhouse94@aol.com wrote: > The bonus cd will contain: > > Drought > Time Being > Leave Your Clothes On > Cut In Two > Myths You Made > Freeze To Burn > Macabre Tavern > > The album is scheduled to be released May 24th. > Hey Morten. Is this the same listing that is in your Discography. I don't have it with me but I thought there were 8 songs on the bonus disc. Fred // "When you put people in the box marked THEM, you can kick them around a lot more easily than when they're in the box marked US. So I think it's useful to try and empty the box marked THEM and fill up the box marked US" -Peter Gabriel // frederic@garfield.ncat.edu From dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Tue Apr 26 20:26 PDT 1994 From: dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Subject: Re: T-shirts That sounds like a great idea Morten. Maybe a blown up version of the slip on the inside of the Hindsight CD (or if anyone has the vinyl and it has a big picture, that would be cool to). Or maybe a collage of the album covers, or maybe...I don't know, but it's a good idea! dave (who is now exulting in finally having all of the Steve Kilbey solo _albums_ :) From mosk Wed Apr 27 08:23 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: record company dude Well, I have decided to add Bill@Arista to our list. Having a record company representative on our list could have it's advantages. :-) I will add him later today (and send out a "welcome Bill message" right afterwards so you know) I suggest that we do keep sort of quiet about "special foreign imports" at the moment, and mail each other outside the list if we are interested in trades. I think I know who has them and who don't, so any questions can of course be directed towards me. Now everybody hush..... :-) -m From mosk Wed Apr 27 13:21 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: New member added All, As you have seen we now have added an Arista employee to our ranks! To me this is great news, we now have a great source for information. I hope you are ready for it, Bill! :-) Welcome on-board... -morten From mosk Wed Apr 27 13:42 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: new church cd > From frederic@ncat.edu Mon Apr 25 20:01:56 1994 > > On Mon, 25 Apr 1994 madhouse94@aol.com wrote: > > > The bonus cd will contain: > > > > Drought > > Time Being > > Leave Your Clothes On > > Cut In Two > > Myths You Made > > Freeze To Burn > > Macabre Tavern > > > > The album is scheduled to be released May 24th. > > > > Hey Morten. Is this the same listing that is in your Discography. I > don't have it with me but I thought there were 8 songs on the bonus disc. > > Fred > The track listing is the same between the two releases, although the sequencing of the tracks is different. Then again, the sequence Steve wrote down may not necessarily be the final one.... Also, remember that Steve wrote that there would be 8 songs, but I could only find 7 titles until it was suggested that "Freeze And Burn" actually were 2 songs. It doesn't look like that (Bill calls it "Freeze To Burn")., so maybe Steve added a "trance ending" :-) Btw, wasn't the disc supposed to be released in Australia on the 26th? Anyone seen it?? -morten From kallista@netcom.com Thu Apr 28 11:22 PDT 1994 From: kallista@netcom.com (Christopher Barrus) Subject: The Church is Southern California Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI to everybody in the Southern California area... 91X radio in San Diego has been announcing a special concert with a bunch of different bands (The Charlatans, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, etc.) INCLUDING a "special acoustic performance by The Church." Sorry, but I don't have any more information than that. The show sold out in ten minutes (no, I didn't get tickets) and the only way to get them now is to win them from the station. As soon as I have more info I'll post more. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barrus - kallista@netcom.com "Sacred cows make the best hamburger" - Abbie Hoffman '72 Buick Riviera - Peace through superior automotive power! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From LMERIWETHER@macalstr.edu Thu Apr 28 19:39 PDT 1994 <01HBQ12LF8288WWJZO@macalstr.edu>; Thu, 28 Apr 1994 21:38:53 CDT From: skye Subject: property transfers X-Vms-To: IN%"seance@thechurch.ebay.sun.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT I am looking for copies of the following songs: She Never Said (1980 Australian 7" version) Busdriver As You Will The View Disenchanted Columbus Happy Hunting Ground Reptile (Rock Radio Remix, 1988, from Reptile 12") Under the Milky Way (Acoustic) Antenna (Acoustic) Spark (Acoustic) Tequila Sunrise Grind (Acoustic) Metropolis (Acoustic) Nightmare Fog I'm also looking for a copy of Sing Songs, since it seems to be difficult to find and VERY VERY expensive (for a college student.) My intent is not to own the recordings, cause I don't think I could afford that (except I'd love to the Metropolis CD single.) I just want copies so I can compile them into a tape of Church rarities, buy Seance, Remote Luxury, Heyday, and achieve Goddesshood. (Cause I already have Blurred Crusade, Skins and Heart, GAF, P=A, Hindsight, and QSAS, plus two Feel CD singles) WHAT I HAVE TO OFFER: Megalopolis CD3 Russian Autumn Heart CD5 Copies of a Church Interview which is *not* The Sum of the Parts, but is instead called Three Church Members Found, and is interviews with Kilbey, W-P, and Koppes about their solo work (my radio station has it on vinyl.) If none of these interests, maybe we could work something out with postage and blank tapes and small amounts of money. I really really want to complete my collection. This means I have to deal with US-Australia snail mail, which has not made me happy in the past, but which I will do (no offense intended, but I started the chain which will lead to to my posession of a tori amos singles tape in *august* and the postpeople seem to have eaten it. hi anthony!) so, help me out here, folks, and I'll be eternally grateful... --skye (lmeriwether@macalstr.edu) From mosk Fri Apr 29 09:58 PDT 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: This has nothing to do with the Church, but... Cc: raphael@research.canon.oz.au I know I'm abusing the Church list here, but I wanted to reach a lot of people with one e-mail, so I decided to go ahead with it... I promise it will not be a habit.... This e-mail is regarding my second favorite band, the Clouds. (No, Anthony, Margot does not count as a band, she's an Artiste... :) They happen to be another Australian act (is it just me or is Australian music just fantastic these days??? :) They don't sound like the Church at all, I think the closest comparisons would be Juliana Hatfield Three, the Breeders (?), old Buzzcocks (snappy pop songs), some aspects of Blondie and a bit of Grunge (shudder) thrown in for kicks. The mix is simply fantastic.... Sometime fast and furious rock'n'roll (also known as power pop way back in the '80s), some really grungy songs (the best grunge around) and sometimes they are very acoustic and mellow... As I said, simply fantastic.... Well, the good news is that this band will be doing a short tour, covering the US, UK, NZ and Canada.... For a complete schedule see below. All I can say is GO SEE THIS BAND!!!!! You deserve it....! (And they do too....) I highly recommend them! (I'll probably be attending all three SF dates) Oh, and note that they will play in SF on the 24th (a.k.a. RELEASE DAY)... I'm taking the 25th off work, I'll be in the cloudchurch... :-) I suggest we take the discussion off-line (I may start a clouds list if necessary), but if you need more info, mail me... -m ----- Begin Included Message ----- From raphael@mama.research.canon.oz.au Wed Apr 27 21:20:57 1994 From: Andrew Raphael Subject: Clouds tour dates Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [I've posted this to rec.music.info, rec.music.misc, & alt.music.alternative, but I thought you shouldn't have to wait] Clouds are leaving Australia, passing through New Zealand, Canada, and the USA on the way to the UK. Clouds are an indie/pop/alternative quartet from Sydney. Starting in late 1989, they've released 2 albums, 1 mini-album, & several EPs and singles on the Red Eye label. A Clouds discography was posted to rec.music.info by Brendan Jones. May 6 Powerstation Auckland NZ May 12 Commodore Ballroom Vancouver CANADA May 14 The Automotive Vancouver CANADA May 15 The Ankor Vancouver CANADA May 17 Raji's Los Angeles USA May 18 Lingerie Club Los Angeles USA May 19 DNA Club San Francisco USA May 22 Bottom of the Hill San Francisco USA May 24 Slims *TBC San Francisco USA May 26 Brownies Manhattan NYC USA Jun 2 The Orange London UK Jun 12 Fluer Festival London UK Jun 17 Borderline London UK Jun 30 The Orange London UK -- Andrew Raphael "She's probably not what she seems, though she tries" ----- End Included Message ----- From kallista@netcom.com Fri Apr 29 11:31 PDT 1994 From: kallista@netcom.com (Christopher Barrus) Subject: The Church in the U.S. Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit FYI to everybody in the Southern California area... 91X radio in San Diego has been announcing a special concert with a bunch of different bands (The Charlatans, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, etc.) INCLUDING a "special acoustic performance by The Church." Sorry, but I don't have any more information than that. The show sold out in ten minutes (no, I didn't get tickets) and the only way to get them now is to win them from the station. As soon as I have more info I'll post more. Chris ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Barrus - kallista@netcom.com "Sacred cows make the best hamburger" - Abbie Hoffman '72 Buick Riviera - Peace through superior automotive power! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From gsa@panix.com Fri Apr 29 18:44 PDT 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: property transfers Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > Tequila Sunrise Do you mean Unsubstantiated from the Movie?? > and achieve Goddesshood. (Cause I already have Blurred Crusade, Skins and What is Goddesshood, and how the hell do uoi pronounce it???? From gsa@panix.com Fri Apr 29 18:49 PDT 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with the Church, but... Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM, raphael@research.canon.oz.au > May 26 Brownies Manhattan NYC USA Ofcourse, I would go, but what is this place???? Brownies??? I live here, and have never heard of this place From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Fri Apr 29 20:03 PDT 1994 Subject: Re: This has nothing to do with the Church, but... <9404291658.AA04039@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM> From: matthew green >I know I'm abusing the Church list here, but I wanted to reach a >lot of people with one e-mail, so I decided to go ahead with it... >I promise it will not be a habit.... i'm not complaining ;-) >This e-mail is regarding my second favorite band, the Clouds. really ???? ;-) >(No, Anthony, Margot does not count as a band, she's an Artiste... :) >They happen to be another Australian act (is it just me or is >Australian music just fantastic these days??? :) >They don't sound like the Church at all, I think the closest >comparisons would be Juliana Hatfield Three, the Breeders (?), >old Buzzcocks (snappy pop songs), some aspects of Blondie >and a bit of Grunge (shudder) thrown in for kicks. The mix >is simply fantastic.... Sometime fast and furious rock'n'roll (also >known as power pop way back in the '80s), some really grungy songs >(the best grunge around) and sometimes they are very acoustic and mellow... >As I said, simply fantastic.... um, i call it brillant, but thats just me. morten is much better at reviewing than i am, but that doesn't stop me raving about them. eh, morten? >All I can say is GO SEE THIS BAND!!!!! You deserve it....! >(And they do too....) I highly recommend them! (I'll probably >be attending all three SF dates) Oh, and note that they will >play in SF on the 24th (a.k.a. RELEASE DAY)... I'm taking >the 25th off work, I'll be in the cloudchurch... :-) i recommend you listen to papa mortie here.. ;-) >I suggest we take the discussion off-line (I may start a clouds >list if necessary), but if you need more info, mail me... [ now to get some church-oriented material ] i expect steve to be brilliant tonight ! ;-) From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Fri Apr 29 22:25 PDT 1994 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Australian release date I just spoke to the gang at White/Mushroom, and they have a confirmed release date for the Church album in Australia - May 30th. Yep, you lucky US persons get it a week before we do! As for a single, it's all up in the air at the moment, because apparently Steve Kilbey isn't sure whether he wants to go with the same single that is being released in the US. So any single from the album will probably turn up after the release of the album itself here. See you all on Sunday night, when I'll report on the Kilbey/Margot gigs! - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From gsa@panix.com Sat Apr 30 19:41 PDT 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: brain cheese Hey, what were those CLouds dates again. Well, really, only the NY date, and the name of the club, too. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * The first thing we do let's kill all the lawyers _Shakespeare * ----------------------------------------------------------------------