From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Wed Jan 5 11:37 PST 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs16.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Bolt Backers list , seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Warning! (fwd) The following message is being bounced around the net as a public service. Please redistribute it to other lists. --Vernon. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David B. O'Donnell Subject: Warning!!! (fwd) I am cross-posting this information from another mailing list. Please consider it a public service announcement. >From: Scott A. Ward 703-614-4719 Subject: Warning: International Internet Association A company calling itself the International Internet Association, and billing itself as "the largest non-profit provider of free Internet access in the world" has started advertizing in the Washington, D.C. area, and offering free Internet accounts to individuals who will FAX them, among other things, a credit card number. As an active member of the Member Council of the National Capital Area Public Access Network (CapAccess), I wanted to find more about this organization that supposedly has offices NOT THREE BLOCKS FROM CAPACCESS. Here's the result of my search for the IIA. 1. Their address, listed as "Suite 852 - 202 Pennsylvania Ave, N.W. Washington D.C. 20006", is actually a post office box at Mailboxes, Etc. 2. The company lists no incorporation, trademark or service-mark licenses. 3. They claim your E-mail address would be @iia.org. However: a. No iia.org is listed in the hq.af.mil hosts table b. No iia.org is listed in the acq.osd.mil hosts table c. No iia.org is listed is the INTERNIC 'whois' database d. No iia.org is listed using the INTERNIC 'netfind' Internet lookup In other words, IIA.ORG does NOT, at this time, exist. 4. Although they apologize profusely in the application, they state that "Without receiving a credit card number, the IIA _cannot_ process an account." 5. Although I have left a message on their voice-mail system, I have received no response from them. (they also apologize in the voice mail that, due to demand, they are operating at a 3-week backlog for applications.) I cannot judge an organization in advance. However, I do think it highly suspicious that, to use their propaganda, "The International Internet Association is able to make this service available through generous private donations, and the extraordinary dedication of its membership." I can say that I am not convinced this organization exists, and highly discourage any Internet user from sending information until you make certain that the IIA is real. From jtehran@husc.harvard.edu Fri Jan 7 01:30 PST 1994 From: jtehran@husc.harvard.edu Subject: reptile single wel, i just went down to my local record shop and found a single for Reptile which isn't in the discography... basically, it's appears to have the same b-sides as the Destination single (an acoustic version of Under the Milky Way and the Heyday version of Tantalized)... it's got a green cover with a scaley-print on it and, it's # is AS1-9733... and, it's on vinyl.... undoubtedly some of ya out there also have a copy of this.. but, to my knowledge, it hasn't yet been added to the discography... anyway, so, to whoever is keeping track of these additions, I suppose theReptile single should be added.... John From dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Wed Jan 12 12:39 PST 1994 From: dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Subject: New pictures! I've put the GAF cover and a picture of Peter from the inside of same cover in GIF format on cs.uwp.edu for all to enjoy! Anyone get any new or interesting Church stuff over the vacation? I picked up a concert shirt from the GAF tour myself! dave From stauntof@qus102.qld.tne.oz.au Wed Jan 12 19:31 PST 1994 seance@thechurch.Ebay.Sun.COM) with MHSnet; Thu, 13 Jan 1994 14:31:56 +1100 From: stauntof@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au (Frank Staunton 837 4782) Subject: Please unsubscribe To the system administrator: Please unsubscribe me from this mailing list Thanks, Frank Staunton. stauntof@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au From stauntof@qus102.qld.tne.oz.au Wed Jan 12 21:02 PST 1994 seance@thechurch.Ebay.Sun.COM) with MHSnet; Thu, 13 Jan 1994 16:02:43 +1100 From: stauntof@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au (Frank Staunton) Subject: Please unsubscribe me Please unsubscribe me from this mailing list. Thanks, Frank. stauntof@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au From stauntof@qus102.qld.tne.oz.au Wed Jan 12 21:14 PST 1994 seance@thechurch.Ebay.Sun.COM) with MHSnet; Thu, 13 Jan 1994 16:14:23 +1100 From: stauntof@qus102.qld.npb.telecom.com.au (Frank Staunton) Subject: Sorry guys! My apologies! I sent my unsubscription request to this address instead of the correct one listed in the FAQ. Frank. From rcr@u.washington.edu Thu Jan 13 08:31 PST 1994 From: Rhonda Corcoran Subject: From the Well Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM I recently saw this on vinyl for $5. I wasn't too impressed with Peter's other release. Does anyone have a recommendation for From the Well or am I not missing much if I leave it in the record bin? Rhonda From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Thu Jan 13 11:33 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: news I received a letter from Steve Kilbey yesterday, and he cleared up a few questions I thought you might be interested in. Firstly, I wondered about the lyrics to "Kings", especially the line "in gardens in the orient____________________is good and spent" Seeing as how the song deals with historical figures, I lookd for a Chinese figure whose name fit the phonetics, and I came up with Li Ch'ing-Chao, a poet. Secondly, for those of you who have SK solo bootlegs, there is a song that he calls "a new song", but he gives no title. So here are the relevant parts of the letter that adress these questions: "......Line you're looking for in "Kings" is "in gardens in the orient liklihood is good and spent, Herod nods beneath the palms, holds poor baby in his arms". Absolutely nothing to do with Li Ch'ing-Chao when i wrote it, but hey, if it fits, it fits, I will not deny the synchronicity or whatever (pre-Sting we called them coincidences). The song you mean "you never should have used magic.." is called "Plantagenet" after the royal English family from the middle ages (Richard III etc.). I still have not recorded that song but I will do it one day before I die. Future plans are Church in March, Jack Frost in July. Jack Frost album is finished, is fantastic and brilliant and entitled "Dead Cool Snow Job" Love Kilbey" I hope that clears up some things for some of you. Speaking of lyrics, I have uploaded complete lyrics to "G.A.F." and "P=A" to cs.uwp.edu, so they should be available soon hopefully. P=A does not have the above correction though. There are a few older, incomplete files for these albums that I posted a while ago, and I've asked for them to be remover to clean the directory up, but in the meantime, there may be multiple copies of the album files, in various stages of completeion. Jack Frost lyrics will be posted soon. -paul From mosk Thu Jan 13 12:44 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: news > From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Thu Jan 13 11:33 PST 1994 > > I received a letter from Steve Kilbey yesterday, This _is_ good news! This means that there's still hope that Steve will answer my 2nd letter to him too! :-) > The song you mean "you never should have used magic.." is called > "Plantagenet" after the royal English family from the middle ages > (Richard III etc.). I still have not recorded that song but I will > do it one day before I die. I have updated the discography... > Future plans are Church in March, Jack Frost in July. Jack Frost > album is finished, is fantastic and brilliant and entitled > "Dead Cool Snow Job" > Love Kilbey" > > I hope that clears up some things for some of you. It does, but you know me... It also brings up a few new ones... :-) Does this mean that the new Church album has been pushed back???? Or is he talking about a tour??? Has anyone heard or seen anything regarding the new album yet??? > -paul > -m From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Fri Jan 14 07:41 PST 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs18.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Subject: Re: news Cc: > "......Line you're looking for in "Kings" is "in gardens in the orient > liklihood is good and spent, Herod nods beneath the palms, holds > poor baby in his arms". Absolutely nothing to do with Li Ch'ing-Chao Aha! I was right! Please don't applaud, just throw money!! :) --Vernon, who still has to get around to posting all the lyrics he has like he said he would... From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Mon Jan 17 00:10 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Subject: Date of new album release Hi people, I've just been down to our local music store, they said the album is scheduled for release in late February. This is the Australian release date (great for me !), so the US should see it pretty soon after that. Brian From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Mon Jan 17 00:23 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: New Zealand release Hi margot-list people! For those of you who have been subscribed for a while, you may not be aware that this list is now automated and happily run by a list-server, meaning that you may post to the list if you want to. For further info, mail margot-list-request@xymox.apana.org.au with the word HELP in the body of the message (*not* the subject - the subject line is ignored by the server). This may also be a good point to ask those on the Church mailing list, which has been receiving output from this list by default, whether they may prefer to subscribe individually to avoid confusion. Morten, it's up to you! :) Today's bit of news is that Margot's album "Sleeping With The Lion" will now, it seems, be released in New Zealand on February 1st. I haven't been able to get a solid confirmation of the date, but it is definitely happening. Still nothing on a US or Europe release, sorry... It is highly possible that Margot will play live in NZ to support the release of the album; this is mainly up to EMI NZ to initiate, though. Any questions on the listserver operation, or possible problems/bugs, mail me at my usual address, anthony@xymox.apana.org.au. Replies to anything posted as part of the list (like this message) will go to everyone on the list, remember. And finally, the interview transcript WILL be in your mailboxes this week. Really. Truly. :) - Anthony Owner of the still-unnamed Margot Smith Mailing List :) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From large!tim@equinox.gen.nz Mon Jan 17 00:35 PST 1994 From: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz (Tim Lucas) Subject: Metropolis I picked up a 12" single the other day called Metropolis "The Acoustic Versions". On the back it says "Limited Edition" I wonder just how limited it was. Has anyone seen it? It has acoustic versions of Metropolis and Grind. It's quite good. Cheers, Tim. From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Mon Jan 17 00:50 PST 1994 X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: mrgreen owned process doing -bs Cc: the@large.equinox.gen.nz, seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: Metropolis <9401171020.AA002pc@large.equinox.gen.nz> From: matthew green >I picked up a 12" single the other day called Metropolis "The Acoustic Versions". > >On the back it says "Limited Edition" > >I wonder just how limited it was. Has anyone seen it? It has acoustic versions >of Metropolis and Grind. It's quite good. i've had this since it came out - on a cassette that came with a metropolis 7" .. and also on 12" .. i've seen it now and then, so it's not really rare... it is good. i love the acoustic version of grind espcially. .mrg. From V133PWN9@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Tue Jan 18 12:47 PST 1994 18 Jan 1994 15:29:59 EST From: V133PWN9@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu Subject: Hello there! Organization: University at Buffalo X-Vms-To: IN%"seance@thechurch.ebay.sun.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hi I'm a new member to this list. I actually found it by accident. While at the ftp site cs.uwp.edu I saw there was a discography and looked through it, low and behold I saw the address for the list and signed up right away. I guess I sort of went about this backwards..I got the lyrics for the Church's albums at the ftp site, then the discography, and finally joined the list. I have been a Church fan for about 6 years. I was first introduced to them by a friend who played Starfish for me, at the time I didn't know who they really were, but the song Under the Milky Way stayed with me (this was about 1988). About a year later while watching MTV 120minutes I saw the video for Under the Milky Way I became hooked. At that time (late '89) MtV started playing video's for Gold Afternoon Fix. So from that point on I became an avid fan. My favorite album (I only have four - sorry) Would have to be either Heyday or Starfish. My favorite song would have to be Under the Milky Way. Question..does anyone know when their new album will be out. The discog said either January or February. Is there going to be a tour? I hav never seen them live and would definitely like to!!!! bob From mosk Tue Jan 18 13:00 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Date of new album release > From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Mon Jan 17 00:10 PST 1994 > > Hi people, > I've just been down to our local music store, they said the album is > scheduled for release in late February. This is the Australian release date > (great for me !), so the US should see it pretty soon after that. > > Brian > Well, I called a local store (which is generally very good) and they said they didn't show anything up through the beginning of March!!! Yikes! :-( :-( This info could of course change overnight, but it sure looks like it's pushed out. And by the way, Priest=Aura was released in the US a couple of months earlier than Australia. Go figure. :-) -morten From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Tue Jan 18 14:58 PST 1994 X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: mrgreen owned process doing -bs Subject: Re: Date of new album release <9401182059.AA04286@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM> From: matthew green >And by the way, Priest=Aura was released in the US a couple of months >earlier than Australia. Go figure. :-) si. i had a copy at least a month before i saw it in the shops here. From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Wed Jan 19 02:21 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Morten.Skjefte@EBay.Sun.COM (Morten Skjefte) Cc: Morten.Skjefte@EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: New Zealand release > From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Mon Jan 17 00:23 PST 1994 > > This may also be a good point to ask those on the Church mailing list, which > has been receiving output from this list by default, whether they may prefer > to subscribe individually to avoid confusion. Morten, it's up to you! :) > Actually, it's up to each one on the seance list, since the mail from the margot-list just gets sent to the mail-alias for the church list... Anyway, I don't think anyone objects to any information dealing with "our margot" and therefore also "our boys". It's definetely easier to maintain it as just one list.... > > Today's bit of news is that Margot's album "Sleeping With The Lion" will now, > it seems, be released in New Zealand on February 1st. I haven't been able to > get a solid confirmation of the date, but it is definitely happening. Still > nothing on a US or Europe release, sorry... > I am working on some sound files with excerpts from the album to be put on ftp soon. I hope to have this done by the end of the week. I'll let you know when it's done. > It is highly possible that Margot will play live in NZ to support the release > of the album; this is mainly up to EMI NZ to initiate, though. > Very interesting. Who will be in her backup band if this happens?? > And finally, the interview transcript WILL be in your mailboxes this week. > Really. Truly. :) > mmmmph...(I'm biting my tongue) :-) :-) :-) :-) > > - Anthony > Owner of the still-unnamed Margot Smith Mailing List :) > Oh, it shouldn't be that difficult... How about "Adored"? Or "Bellyman"? Or even "thelion"? Or "thesmiths" (this could be the marketing coup that's needed for the world to listen.... :-) -morten > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au > "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." > - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Wed Jan 19 20:28 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Live review [exactly as printed in Beat Magazine, Melbourne, November 10th 1993] MARGOT SMITH SEVEN STORIES Cherry Tree Showcasing their new album and possessed of a new-found stage confidence and energy, Seven Stories don't mess around with the delicate side of things at all when they walk out on stage. Playing mostly tracks from their new album "Everything You Want", the band manage to power through their set seemingly effortlessly recreating the album's sonic pop. Sounding at times like a trimmed-down Hunters And Collectors, the new material sounds completely at home in a live environment, and those who heard the album and got the impression that it was going to sound twice as good live can rest easy with the fact that they are right. Set highlight award easily goes to "First Of Its Kind", a song that has "play me loud" written all over it. They do. Treading carefully as she ventures into the live arena, Margot Smith, who'll be familiar to readers of this magazine as the creator of one of this year's most perfect albums in "Sleeping With The Lion", has left the task of recreating the album's atmospherics in full until later - a band for live performance is in the process of being assembled. At the moment, though, Margot takes to the stage with a musical assist from just two acoustic guitars, courtesy album collaborator Michael Wade and a distortion pedal-equipped Al McInnes. The results are breathtaking. Many of the album's songs receive their first live airing at the Cherry Tree shows; and unbelievably, they all work. While the more conventional pop stylings of singles "Fall Down" and "Adored" translate easily to the acoustic format, complex soundscapes like "Arms Of Earth" and "Just" could just as easily have fallen apart. They not only survive the transition, they take on a new life of their own as the lush production of the album versions is stripped back to an acoustic guitar bed guided by a single voice. And what a voice - by the end of "Child" the audience is spellbound, lost in the song and a world away from what is going on around them. With a cover version of Bob Dylan's "Don't Think Twice It's Alright" thrown in for good measure, the set also includes "How Do You Sleep" and the sublime "Life Time". A unique and very special performance, this is but a sneak preview of what Margot is going to deliver live in the future. ANTHONY HORAN -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Wed Jan 19 20:32 PST 1994 (from Morten.Skjefte@EBay.Sun.COM (Morten Skjefte)) (at Tue, 18 Jan 1994 16:25:11 +0800) Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: New Zealand release Morten says: > > From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Mon Jan 17 00:23 PST 1994 Wow, the envelope header somehow got attached to the address. Hmmm. (Here's hoping for big bug-free things with the next version of ListSERV, coming soon to a Margot Smith Mailing List near you. :-) > > This may also be a good point to ask those on the Church mailing list, which > > has been receiving output from this list by default, whether they may prefer > > to subscribe individually to avoid confusion. Morten, it's up to you! :) > > Actually, it's up to each one on the seance list, since the mail from the > margot-list just gets sent to the mail-alias for the church list... And I've been getting bounces from a couple of Church-list people, too... :) > Anyway, I don't think anyone objects to any information dealing with > "our margot" and therefore also "our boys". It's definetely easier to > maintain it as just one list.... Well let me do it this way; if many people come forwatd and say they'd rather keep margot chatter off the Church list, then that's fine, just let me know, and I can remove the Church mail alias from the list so you can all subscribe personally (in a way this is good, too, as EMI seem to be taking something of an interest in all this promotion that's going on in "This Internet thing". The more individual people I have on the list, the more I can impress the label... :-) (Oh, and by the way, currently this list has about 20 subscribers.) > I am working on some sound files with excerpts from the album to be put on > ftp soon. I hope to have this done by the end of the week. I'll let > you know when it's done. Fantastic! Which format will they be in? Maybe I'll finally get to use my swanko Amiga sound file converter that's been sitting compiled but unused on my hard disk for about 2 years... :) > > It is highly possible that Margot will play live in NZ to support the release > > of the album; this is mainly up to EMI NZ to initiate, though. > > Very interesting. Who will be in her backup band if this happens?? If it does happen, there won't be a band. :-( A combination of Margot being unable to find the right people to make up the band, many wanted musicians being interstate or very busy, and considerations like budget, will keep the NZ appearances to the same format she used in Melbourne and Canberra when launching the album - Michael Wade and Al McInnes on acoustic guitars, and Margot singing. It works surprisingly well. In fact, I believe I have a live review I did of one performance for Beat Mag which I have never posted. I'll dig it up and send it out. > > - Anthony > > Owner of the still-unnamed Margot Smith Mailing List :) > > Oh, it shouldn't be that difficult... How about "Adored"? > Or "Bellyman"? Or even "thelion"? Or "thesmiths" (this > could be the marketing coup that's needed for the world to > listen.... :-) None of those do much for me as a mailing list name... (sorry Morten! :) - anyone alse got any ideas? (Although "Adored" is getting there.... hmmm... or maybe "lion-list" :-) - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 20 03:03 PST 1994 <9401210131.0oy9@xymox.apana.org.au> <9401210131.0oy9@xymox.apana.org.au> Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: matthew green Subject: Re: New Zealand release >> > Owner of the still-unnamed Margot Smith Mailing List :) >> >> Oh, it shouldn't be that difficult... How about "Adored"? >> Or "Bellyman"? Or even "thelion"? Or "thesmiths" (this >> could be the marketing coup that's needed for the world to >> listen.... :-) > >None of those do much for me as a mailing list name... (sorry Morten! :) - >anyone alse got any ideas? (Although "Adored" is getting there.... hmmm... or >maybe "lion-list" :-) > i think i like adored best ;-) From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Thu Jan 20 04:47 PST 1994 X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: mrgreen owned process doing -bs Subject: 'a minute without you'. From: matthew green anyone have the lyrics to this beast? From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 20 17:40 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Ethan_Straffin@NeXT.COM (Ethan Straffin) Subject: Names for list? and hello Anthony sez: > None of those do much for me as a mailing list name... (sorry Morten! :) - > anyone alse got any ideas? (Although "Adored" is getting there.... hmmm... > or maybe "lion-list" :-) Well, how about a Latin or Greek approximation of "Sleeping with the Lion?" I think "felisleophilia-list" has a wonderful ring to it, although of course it's hardly an accurate translation...means something like "abnormal appetite for the lion," and we probably want something more along the lines of the true translation of "sleep" rather than the sexual connotation. (Anyone remember their roots better than I do?) But what the heck, I like the sound. Oh yeah, guess I should introduce myself, huh? I'm Ethan, 22 years old and living in California, fresh out of college and moving into that big scary Real World. I suspect I'm one of the few on the list with the distinction of having never heard any of Margot's music...I guess that after a long time on ecto and really-deep-thoughts, I just trust Anthony's taste. (And what are a few more interesting posts per day compared to the EctoFlood?) Maybe someday her music will make it here, or maybe I'll just have to start begging. But Anthony, if you *do* start trying to make an impression on EMI, you can hereby assure them that at least one person would definitely buy a U.S. release. :) So um, at the risk of sounding completely dense, what relationship does Margot have to the Church? Ethan From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Fri Jan 21 04:48 PST 1994 (from Ethan_Straffin@NeXT.COM (Ethan Straffin)) (at Thu, 20 Jan 94 09:13:07 -0800) Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Names for list? and hello Ethan suggests a name: > Well, how about a Latin or Greek approximation of "Sleeping with the Lion?" > I think "felisleophilia-list" has a wonderful ring to it, although of course Wow - the alias from hell! :-) > it's hardly an accurate translation...means something like "abnormal appetite > for the lion," and we probably want something more along the lines of the > true translation of "sleep" rather than the sexual connotation. (Anyone > remember their roots better than I do?) But what the heck, I like the sound. I'm still trying to *make* the sound of that word... :^) > Real World. I suspect I'm one of the few on the list with the distinction of > having never heard any of Margot's music...I guess that after a long time on > ecto and really-deep-thoughts, I just trust Anthony's taste. (And what are a Oh! Thank you! :) > few more interesting posts per day compared to the EctoFlood?) Maybe someday > her music will make it here, or maybe I'll just have to start begging. But > Anthony, if you *do* start trying to make an impression on EMI, you can > hereby assure them that at least one person would definitely buy a U.S. > release. :) They're "working on it". because EMI doesn't have a direct affiliate in the US, there's no option for anyone to pick up; I'd imagine the album would be offered to Capitol, but who knows? Anything I hear, I'll pass on to the list immediately. > So um, at the risk of sounding completely dense, what relationship does > Margot have to the Church? Morten, go for it...! :-) (Some of "Sleeping With The Lion" was produced by Steve Kilbey, actually...) - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From mosk Fri Jan 21 11:20 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Latest news I received a fax from RedEye yesterday with the following info: "As for the new Church album, their Australian record company says that work is still being done on it, but that a new single is out in 2 weeks." Who said Christmas is over??? :-) I will post more details if / when I get them... -morten From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Sat Jan 22 00:05 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Morten.Skjefte@EBay.Sun.COM (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: Names for list? and hello > From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Fri Jan 21 04:48 PST 1994 > > So um, at the risk of sounding completely dense, what relationship does > > Margot have to the Church? > > Morten, go for it...! :-) (Some of "Sleeping With The Lion" was produced by > Steve Kilbey, actually...) > > > - Anthony > Ok, Anthony, since you asked for it... :-) S.K. also co-wrote and plays on the songs he produced. He also stated that Margot "posesses an exquisite voice and the songs are uniformly excellent". So, Ethan, even if you don't trust Anthony's taste, Steve's recommendation ought to do it.... :-) And if you want my opinion...well, let's put it this way...you can trust both Anthony and Steve....buy, buy, buy.... -m From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Sat Jan 22 00:24 PST 1994 X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: mrgreen owned process doing -bs Subject: 'a minute without you' From: matthew green with help from brian smith.. ive got something worked out.. let me know if you think i've got it wrong.. .mrg a minute without you diamond hard heartthrob fakes displeasure as his jilted fingers rest around his with knee god, his face is like a sunken treasure bring dry girl from the violent seas and its one for the woman whose never been had two for the woman that was always unclad three for the woman who kept the door four someone you know who we are looking for. overwhelming hunger descended on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song we'll bring down the angels from the troubled sky put them in a cage 'til the day they cry. madison avenue, choked by dust don't wanna be there i know must overwhelming hunger descended on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song overwhelming panic, and set it on me chase me from the grave to the nursery a minute with out you is just too short a life time beside you and i'm bound to get caught early in the evening gunna pull down the board but the signs rush by 'cause it feels real good seven stupid prophets and their end in rain but the fire in their eyes is gunna burn you again overwhelming hunger descended on me stretches from the cradle to the factory a minute without you is just too long a lifetime beside you and it's gone like this song overwhelming panic, and set it on me chase me from the grave to the nursery a minute with out you is just too short a life time beside you and i'm bound to get caught From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Sat Jan 22 01:00 PST 1994 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: brianb@netcom.com (Brian Bloom) Subject: Richard from Big Sky Sorry if this goes to the list, Anthony, Richard from Big Sky said he got the article Thursday evening. mission accomplished. br!an -- __ ____ __ ____ __ __ (__==__) /\ \ / \_\ / /\ / \ \ / |\ / /\ (oo) ( moo.) / \_\ / /\ |_| / / /| /\ \ \ / ||/ / / /-------\/ -' / /\ | |\ \/ /_/_ / / / \ \/ \ \ / |/ / / / | U.T.|| / \/ |_| \ __ \_\ /_/ / \ /\ \_\ / /| / / * ||----|| / /\ ./_/ \ \ \/_/_\_\/ \ \ \/_// / | / / ^^ ^^ \ \/ |_| \ \_\ /_/\ \ \_\ /_/ /|_/ / Br!an Bloom \__/_/ \/_/ \_\/ \/_/ \_\/ \_\/ brianb@netcom.com .. but music hides me so well, ..and reveals me.. oh well - HR From gsa@panix.com Sat Jan 22 06:58 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: 'a minute without you' Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM What is this song a minute without you? OOOPS!, I think I picked reply to all recipients. Sorry if any of you get 2 messages of the same. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * The first thing we do let's kill all the lawyers _Shakespeare * ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From mrgreen@mame.mu.OZ.AU Sat Jan 22 16:17 PST 1994 X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: Host localhost didn't use HELO protocol X-Authentication-Warning: circlip.mame.mu.OZ.AU: mrgreen owned process doing -bs Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Subject: Re: 'a minute without you' From: matthew green >What is this song a minute without you? OOOPS!, I think I picked reply to >all recipients. Sorry if any of you get 2 messages of the same. it's a steve kilbey song. it's on his 'the slow crack' album. From mosk Mon Jan 24 07:29 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Error messages Hi, Due to numerous mailer-daemons, the following 2 accounts have been removed from the list: cs031003@cs.brown.edu tankgirl@netcom.com If you know any of these people and they want to be re-added, have them contact me at seance-info@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM Thanks, -morten From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Mon Jan 24 08:11 PST 1994 (from Suspended In Duct Tape ) (at Sat, 22 Jan 1994 22:23:53 -0400 (EDT)) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Margot In Stores Meri writes: > She came back later to say that she really really liked that song, and was in > a local shopping mall and heard it over the sound system in a clothing store > called Express. (She originally confused the song she heard with Ashley Maher's Wow! I told Margot about this, and she also said "wow" and we're very curious how the song ended up on the in-store tape in the first place... could it be that EMI is actually doing overseas publicity? Naah. Maybe the person who compiles the tapes frequents an unknown import store with good taste, or maybe they were sent a promo from here by someone - it certainly wasn't me, although another idea that comes to mind is this: just after "Fall Down" came out I heard it over the PA system in Melbourne Central shopping centre (er.. *mall* :-) so maybe there's an interbational company that does these tapes or something (Melbourne Central is in fact Japanese-owned...). > which she also liked a lot- yesterday she confirmed that the song she heard > was really and truly Margot Smith, and asked where she could buy the album.) >From Accidentally A Mail Order Company Pty Ltd. In other words, me. :) (I've been at the post office today getting packaging products for the latest batch of CDs to be sent off, and I'm starting to enjoy the taste of AirMail stickers. It'll be Betty Ford for me before long...! > So Margot is at least getting airplay in trendy American clothing stores. This :-) And on your show, Meri! > one is a European company, so I think that's where the in-store tapes come > from, but I'm not sure, nor am I sure where to find out. Just thought y'all > would like to know! If you could find out any more about the source of their in-store material, that'd be great! - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Mon Jan 24 09:16 PST 1994 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Margot In Stores Hi! A couple weeks ago I loaned a tape of one of my recent radio shows to one of my co-workers, during which I had played "Adored" by we-all-know-who. :) She came back later to say that she really really liked that song, and was in a local shopping mall and heard it over the sound system in a clothing store called Express. (She originally confused the song she heard with Ashley Maher's "Laughter In The Rain", which I had played immediately before "Adored", and which she also liked a lot- yesterday she confirmed that the song she heard was really and truly Margot Smith, and asked where she could buy the album.) So Margot is at least getting airplay in trendy American clothing stores. This one is a European company, so I think that's where the in-store tapes come from, but I'm not sure, nor am I sure where to find out. Just thought y'all would like to know! Meredith meth@delphi.com From MCA4860@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU Mon Jan 24 12:43 PST 1994 From: MCA4860@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU Subject: lyrics and all Hej! I was wanting to know the ftp address for lyrics and all the other stuff i've seen here on the list about the band. I had seen it a few times, but missed it. Thanks, mark From mosk Mon Jan 24 12:57 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: lyrics and all > From MCA4860@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU Mon Jan 24 12:43 PST 1994 > > Hej! I was wanting to know the ftp address for lyrics and all the > other stuff i've seen here on the list about the band. I had seen it a few > times, but missed it. > > Thanks, > mark > > it's ftp.uwp.edu -m From somnus@zikzak.apana.org.au Mon Jan 24 17:01 PST 1994 Path: not-for-mail From: somnus@zikzak.apana.org.au (Andrew Benka) Newsgroups: apana.lists.music.the-church Subject: Where are those Church pics for windows? Organization: Zikzak Public Access UNIX, Melbourne Australia Lines: 11 Some time ago, i think, someone mentioned that there are some Church pics for windows, just wondering which ftp site these are at. cheers, Andrew somnus@zikzak.apana.org.au From LMERIWETHER@macalstr.edu Mon Jan 24 21:56 PST 1994 <01H82V82UIZK93EBLM@macalstr.edu>; Mon, 24 Jan 1994 23:56:21 CDT From: skye Subject: why? X-Vms-To: IN%"seance@thechurch.ebay.sun.com" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT why are messages from this list turning up on the church list so frequently? --skye > From: IN%"margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au" 24-JAN-1994 10:31:49.49 > To: IN%"margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au" > CC: > Subj: RE: Margot In Stores > > Return-path: > Received: from Sun.COM by macalstr.edu (PMDF V4.2-11 #2450) id > <01H82358G2J493EIL9@macalstr.edu>; Mon, 24 Jan 1994 10:31:33 CDT > Received: from EBay.Sun.COM ([129.150.111.20]) by Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id > AA00859; Mon, 24 Jan 94 08:18:58 PST > Mon, 24 Jan 94 08:17:13 PST > Received: from EBay.Sun.COM (doesit) by thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-SVR4) > Mon, 24 Jan 94 08:12:18 PST > Received: from yarrina.connect.com.au ([192.189.54.17]) by Sun.COM > Received: from werple.apana.org.au by yarrina.connect.com.au with SMTP id > 24 Jan 1994 22:13:56 +1100 > Received: from zikzak.apana.org.au (root@zikzak.apana.org.au [192.188.107.73]) > by werple.apana.org.au (8.6.4/8.6.4) with ESMTP id WAA24220 for > ; Mon, 24 Jan 1994 22:13:37 +1100 > Received: from xymox.apana.org.au (xymox@localhost) by zikzak.apana.org.au > Received: by xymox.apana.org.au (V1.17-beta/Amiga) id > <0q7d@xymox.apana.org.au>; Mon, 24 Jan 94 21:10:19 +1100 > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 1994 20:43:32 +1100 > From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) > Subject: RE: Margot In Stores > In-reply-to: <01H7ZZBEU49095O0OF@delphi.com> (from Suspended In Duct Tape > ) (at Sat, 22 Jan 1994 22:23:53 -0400 (EDT)) > To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au > Reply-to: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') > Message-id: <9401250743.0q6i@xymox.apana.org.au> > MIME-version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > Content-Length: 2118 > > Meri writes: > > > She came back later to say that she really really liked that song, and was in > > a local shopping mall and heard it over the sound system in a clothing store > > called Express. (She originally confused the song she heard with Ashley Maher's > > Wow! I told Margot about this, and she also said "wow" and we're very curious > how the song ended up on the in-store tape in the first place... could it be > that EMI is actually doing overseas publicity? Naah. Maybe the person who > compiles the tapes frequents an unknown import store with good taste, or > maybe they were sent a promo from here by someone - it certainly wasn't me, > although another idea that comes to mind is this: just after "Fall Down" came > out I heard it over the PA system in Melbourne Central shopping centre (er.. > *mall* :-) so maybe there's an interbational company that does these tapes or > something (Melbourne Central is in fact Japanese-owned...). > > > which she also liked a lot- yesterday she confirmed that the song she heard > > was really and truly Margot Smith, and asked where she could buy the album.) > > >From Accidentally A Mail Order Company Pty Ltd. In other words, me. :) (I've > been at the post office today getting packaging products for the latest batch > of CDs to be sent off, and I'm starting to enjoy the taste of AirMail > stickers. It'll be Betty Ford for me before long...! > > > So Margot is at least getting airplay in trendy American clothing stores. This > > :-) And on your show, Meri! > > > one is a European company, so I think that's where the in-store tapes come > > from, but I'm not sure, nor am I sure where to find out. Just thought y'all > > would like to know! > > If you could find out any more about the source of their in-store material, > that'd be great! > > - Anthony > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au > "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." > - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Tue Jan 25 00:57 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Ethan_Straffin@NeXT.COM (Ethan Straffin) Subject: Re: Names for list? and hello Morten sez: >Ok, Anthony, since you asked for it... :-) S.K. also co-wrote and plays >on the songs he produced. He also stated that Margot "posesses an exquisite >voice and the songs are uniformly excellent". So, Ethan, even if you don't >trust Anthony's taste, Steve's recommendation ought to do it.... :-) And if >you want my opinion...well, let's put it this way...you can trust both >Anthony and Steve....buy, buy, buy.... Well, like I said, I trust Anthony...no opinion on Steve since I've never talked to him, although I certainly like the Church. :) And I would indeed "buy, buy, buy" if I weren't living in a country that always seems to get the good music last. But I suppose we feel like that at times no matter where we live, eh? Australia got Margot first, Canada got Sarah, England got Tori, we got Happy... Anyway, in a marvelous show of charity, Sue has offered to send me a tape of _SwtL_, and I'll definitely try to buy the CD if I like it. From everything I've been hearing lately, I'm almost sure I will! Ethan From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Tue Jan 25 04:45 PST 1994 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Subject: US label? Hi all, Can anyone tell me whether or not the new Church album will be distributed in the US? Are they still with Arista? Just wondering. Rich Boston Univ. From mosk Tue Jan 25 08:59 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: why? > From LMERIWETHER@macalstr.edu Mon Jan 24 21:56 PST 1994 > > why are messages from this list turning up on the church list so frequently? > > --skye > seance@thechurch is one of the subscribers on the margot-list. If you or anyone else on the list have a problem with being on the margot-list let me know. -morten From mosk Wed Jan 26 08:05 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Letters, letters, letters..... Here's a thingy that ended up in my (snail)mail box last week. It should be fairly self-explanatory... --------------------------------------------------------------- Hej Morten, Sitting here, it's Christmas night, very warm, on my own. Thought I'd answer a few of your questions though I must confess record collecting type questions are not my strongpoint. But here goes. 1. Correct. "S.N.S. + I.A.H." are the first Aust single. "She N. S." is just a different mix (quite different). 2. There never was a version of Heyday with instrumental tracks. Although recently in Thailand I puchased a bootleg Gold Afternoon and it had an extra instrumental track at the end called "Into the Light" which was some sort of jazz fusion thing, but I've no idea who it's actually by, certainly not the Church. I've seen ads in various collectors mags for the Heyday with 2 instrumentals for lots of money. I wonder if it originated via Thailand? 3. I was asked to do something "Christmasy" for a benefit record for a Kids hospital. I knocked that song off in a couple of hours at home when I was Eight track. I can't remember much about it at all. 4. Redeye was never my label. Although me and my 2 brothers + Karin were on it, we never had any part of it business wise. We all left too, at the same time as Redeye took on new directions and new acts. We need a label thus the formation of Karmic Hit. 5. No new Curious. Karin has made a record called "Invoice" with Boris Gudonov who works with all of us now. He is a brilliant musician and techno-boffin. It's an unbelievable good record. Also seek out as imports: The Bhagavad Guitars album "Hypnotized" (Youngest Brother Johns now defunct band great album tho) and Warp Factor Nine another group with Boris, John K and Russel K (my other brother) the album is called Five Days in a Photon Belt and it's beautiful stuff. It's out thru Polygram. 6. No more plans for Asphalt Eden....too many new things to do. 7. I came across a cache of my "Earthed" books (not the booklet a la Ryko) and wondered if anyone out there would still like a copy. If so they can send me U.S. $20 as a postal note or whatever, however money is sent and that will include postage and package - all autographed. These are the last 50 from the Two Thousand I originally printed up. Worth 40 pounds on the continent! Can send it to P.O. 56 etc. (What a breadhead eh?) Also did I tell you I had a track on the soundtrack of an Australian film "Reckless Kelly" an awful film, but my song is quite o.k. It's on Mushroom and shouldn't be too hard to import. Seek out also a record called "Used + Recommended by" on which a band called Ripe does a great version of Milky Way (better than ours in fact) (on Mushroom too). O.K Love + Karlek and etc etc Steve Kilbey ^ | authentic sig. --------------------------------------------------------------- The address he's talking about is: Mr. Steve Kilbey, P.O. Box 56, Rozelle, N.S.W. 2039, Australia And the authentic sig thing is because I asked him to sign his full name (instead of the S.K. that he did on the previous letter). And the envelope even had "Kilbey, Aust" as sender on it... I guess there's only one... :-) From mosk Wed Jan 26 09:56 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Margot Smith Sound Files Cc: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au I just uploaded the following files to /pub/incoming/misc.music.files on ftp.uwp.edu. sleeping1.au sleeping2.au README.sleeping.au The files are sound files of the Margot Smith album, the first 60 seconds of each song. Created under crummy circumstances (but yes, Anthony I _did_ use a cable) so there's some hiss, but it will give you an idea of what the album's like (and what you're missing). Be aware that each file is about 3 Mb (well, not the README file), and that the files will eventually be moved to /pub/music/artists/s/smith.margot Happy listening... -morten From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Wed Jan 26 20:59 PST 1994 <9401241939.AA21934@oz.NeXT.COM> <9401241939.AA21934@oz.NeXT.COM> Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: matthew green Subject: Re: Names for list? and hello ethan says: >Anyway, in a marvelous show of charity, Sue has offered to send me a tape of >_SwtL_, and I'll definitely try to buy the CD if I like it. From everything >I've been hearing lately, I'm almost sure I will! you will. it took morten's review to finally get me to buy it (well, i was christmas shopping [for myself] and i saw it ... and couldn't help myself) ... i've played it over and over and over and over. between it, the latest clouds album _thunderhead_, and perhaps the latest concrete blonde album (i haven't heard this much _yet_), it definately is one of the best albums from 1993, if not _the_ best. From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 27 10:34 PST 1994 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: HOLLY@UMBC2.UMBC.EDU Cc: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au Subject: Re: Names for list? and hello Er... hi. :) For a name for the margot-list, how about "catch me up?" I thought it would be a good name for the list because they words are from a Margot song, and why we are on the Margot list is because we want to "catch up" with news on Margot. Holly From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 27 10:35 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Margot Smith Sound Files (fwd) Thought the people on the list might like to see this, Morten! Apologies to those on the Church list seeing it for the second time... ****** I just uploaded the following files to /pub/incoming/misc.music.files on ftp.uwp.edu. sleeping1.au sleeping2.au README.sleeping.au The files are sound files of the Margot Smith album, the first 60 seconds of each song. Created under crummy circumstances (but yes, Anthony I _did_ use a cable) so there's some hiss, but it will give you an idea of what the album's like (and what you're missing). Be aware that each file is about 3 Mb (well, not the README file), and that the files will eventually be moved to /pub/music/artists/s/smith.margot Happy listening... -morten ****** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 27 11:05 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Margot's album now available in the US A while back, a company named Anthem Entertainment posted to one of the newsgroups that they stocked a large range of Australian import CDs; I mailed them and asked if they stocked Margot's album, supplying the catalogue number and other details. I got no response until today, when the following arrived. So those of you in the US who've been wondering how to get hold of Margot's album now have another, albeit slightly expensive, option. ****** > Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 02:12:58 EST > From: anthement@aol.com > To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au > Subject: Anthem - Margot Smith We have received the Margot Smith release "Sleeping With The Lion" in stock. The CD is $34.98 plus $3.50 for shipping. If you are interested in this title please phone (310) 691-9336 and an operator will take your order, or you may e-mail your payment info (credit card no, expiration, etc.), and shipping address and your order will be sent on its way! If you have any questions, e-mail or phone us. Thank you, ANTHEM ENTERTAINMENT. ****** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From large!tim@equinox.gen.nz Thu Jan 27 14:13 PST 1994 From: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz (Tim lucas) Subject: Has anybody had any trouble getting starfish.gif from ftp.uwp.edu? I've tried twice and the file has been corrupt both times :-( -Tim From vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu Thu Jan 27 15:07 PST 1994 via MS.5.6.pcs19.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c_411; From: Vernon H Harmon Subject: Gifs Cc: Nah. My copy of starfish.gif looks *fabulous*... The gaf.gif and peter.gif are both corrupt, though. --Vernon. From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 27 18:40 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Brent Aliverti Subject: RE: Margot's album now available in the US ANTHEM ENTERTAINMENT says: >We have received the Margot Smith release "Sleeping With The Lion" in stock. >The CD is $34.98 plus $3.50 for shipping. If you are interested in this title This price seems outrageous. Aren't there any Australian stores that ship overseas (Tower, HMV, Virgin, etc?) It would have to be cheaper than that. Aren't most new Australian CD's in the $28-$30 (Australian) range? That comes to about $20 (US). Add maybe $6 or $7 for postage, and you would still be looking at $25-$28 (US). Does anyone have any phone/fax numbers for Australian stores that ship to the US? From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 27 18:40 PST 1994 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Suspended In Duct Tape Subject: Re: Margot's album now available in the US Hi! $34.98?!?!?! Is that Australian or American dollars? If it's American, that's a bloody ripoff. Meredith meth@delphi.com From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 27 18:44 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Michael Colford Subject: Re: Margot's album now available in the US On Fri, 28 Jan 1994, Anthony Horan wrote: > A while back, a company named Anthem Entertainment posted to one of the > newsgroups that they stocked a large range of Australian import CDs; I mailed > them and asked if they stocked Margot's album, supplying the catalogue number > and other details. I got no response until today, when the following arrived. > So those of you in the US who've been wondering how to get hold of Margot's > album now have another, albeit slightly expensive, option. It works! I received Anthem's message Monday, and yesterday I actually placed my order for Margot (and Deborah Conway's _Bitch Epic_, BTW). I wonder how many orders they'll get? They confirmed the fact that I heard about this list through the interent. Can't wait to hear Margot! Michael Colford From mosk Fri Jan 28 12:43 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Margot list Cc: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au A few of you have mailed me and asked me to take them off the margot-list alias. The way things are set up now, seance@thechurch is a subscriber to the margot-list, so in essence if you join the church list, you automatically get the margot-list too. In order to change this I will have to give all the current addresses to Anthony Horan so he can set up those of you who want to still be on the margot-list. Are there any objections to doing this??? If you have a problem with it, or do not want to receive the margot mail, this is the time to let me know. I will forward the addresses to Anthony on tuesday. And, if you already have requested to be taken off the margot-list you do not need to mail me again.... Thanks, -morten From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Fri Jan 28 20:35 PST 1994 <01H86SQX34SI90MUG4@delphi.com> <01H86SQX34SI90MUG4@delphi.com> Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: matthew green Subject: Re: Margot's album now available in the US >$34.98?!?!?! Is that Australian or American dollars? > >If it's American, that's a bloody ripoff. it's a rip off either way - i think my copy was $24 in JB hifi.. and thats australian... From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Fri Jan 28 20:37 PST 1994 Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: Morten.Skjefte@EBay.Sun.COM (Morten Skjefte) Subject: RE: Margot's album now available in the US > From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Thu Jan 27 18:40 PST 1994 > > ANTHEM ENTERTAINMENT says: > >We have received the Margot Smith release "Sleeping With The Lion" in stock. > >The CD is $34.98 plus $3.50 for shipping. If you are interested in this title > > This price seems outrageous. Aren't there any Australian stores that > ship overseas (Tower, HMV, Virgin, etc?) It would have to be cheaper > than that. Aren't most new Australian CD's in the $28-$30 (Australian) > range? That comes to about $20 (US). Add maybe $6 or $7 for postage, > and you would still be looking at $25-$28 (US). Does anyone have any > phone/fax numbers for Australian stores that ship to the US? > The Anthem Entertainment price is steep. When I order it from RedEye it runs USD 27.00 (incl postage to the States). Mosk Entertainment (that's me! :-) will be happy to supply the album to anyone on the list for that price. Postage to your US mail-box will be added on (usually about $ 3.00). Or you can order it from RedEye Records (who seems to be a great place to import Oz stuff from). Here's the address: Red Eye Records GPO Box 211 Sydney, 2001 NSW, Australia Fax (from the US): 011-61-2-223-5219 Tell'em Morten sent you! :-) Speaking of import places.... Has anyone dealt with CDEuropa??? They have a few interesting items I may wave my credit-card at... They have a modem-number in San Jose, CA, (did they know I was living close by?) but the business address is in Florida! Anyone dealt with them? -m ---------- The Moneymakers have gotten hold of our paintings, our music, our oceans, our rainforests, our parents, our children. And in return they give us... ENTERTAINMENT. Steve Kilbey (Earthed) From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Fri Jan 28 20:37 PST 1994 (from Brent Aliverti ) (at Thu, 27 Jan 94 11:34:29 PST) Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: RE: Margot's album now available in the US Hiya Brent, you ended up in my mailbox back on Jan 27... > ANTHEM ENTERTAINMENT says: > >We have received the Margot Smith release "Sleeping With The Lion" in stock. > >The CD is $34.98 plus $3.50 for shipping. If you are interested in this title > > This price seems outrageous. Aren't there any Australian stores that > ship overseas (Tower, HMV, Virgin, etc?) It would have to be cheaper It is pretty high, yes. I can only assume that Anthem are buying retail and adding some profit for themselves; it is another option, though, for those who don't want to suffer the mailing process themselves. Melbourne's Virgin Megastore does indeed ship overseas, as do many others - Red Eye Records in Sydney has been recommended by a few people. Anyone needing addresses, fax or phone numbers, mail me and I'll do what I can. > than that. Aren't most new Australian CD's in the $28-$30 (Australian) Yep. Margot's CD retails for $29.95. > range? That comes to about $20 (US). Add maybe $6 or $7 for postage, Costs me $5 plus packaging to send a CD to the US. > and you would still be looking at $25-$28 (US). Does anyone have any > phone/fax numbers for Australian stores that ship to the US? Morten has Red Eye's contact details; I can help with Melbourne stores if you can find one that has any copies of Margot's CD in at the moment (I seem to have cleaned the city out of stock of the disc at the moment...! :-) - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Sat Jan 29 20:49 PST 1994 <9401300111.0rcj@xymox.apana.org.au> <9401300111.0rcj@xymox.apana.org.au> Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: matthew green Subject: Re: Margot's album now available in the US >Morten has Red Eye's contact details; I can help with Melbourne stores if you >can find one that has any copies of Margot's CD in at the moment (I seem to >have cleaned the city out of stock of the disc at the moment...! :-) yeah. i went looking for one to send a friend of mine last night and couldn't find _any_ ... From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Sun Jan 30 11:58 PST 1994 (from matthew green ) (at Sat, 29 Jan 1994 17:14:18 +1100) Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: Margot's album now available in the US Hiya matthew, you ended up in my mailbox back on Jan 29... > >Morten has Red Eye's contact details; I can help with Melbourne stores if you > >can find one that has any copies of Margot's CD in at the moment (I seem to > >have cleaned the city out of stock of the disc at the moment...! :-) > > yeah. i went looking for one to send a friend of mine last > night and couldn't find _any_ ... :-) Told you! Hee. Make sure and ask them at the counter about it, so they start thinking they'd better stock more...! :-) - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From margot-list-error@xymox.apana.org.au Sun Jan 30 21:33 PST 1994 <9401311710.0rrt@xymox.apana.org.au> <9401311710.0rrt@xymox.apana.org.au> Reply-To: margot-list@xymox.apana.org.au (Mailinglist 'margot-list') From: matthew green Subject: Re: Margot's album now available in the US >Hiya matthew, you ended up in my mailbox back on Jan 29... > >> >Morten has Red Eye's contact details; I can help with Melbourne stores if you >> >can find one that has any copies of Margot's CD in at the moment (I seem to >> >have cleaned the city out of stock of the disc at the moment...! :-) >> >> yeah. i went looking for one to send a friend of mine last >> night and couldn't find _any_ ... > >:-) Told you! Hee. Make sure and ask them at the counter about it, so they >start thinking they'd better stock more...! :-) i did... they said 'who?' ... From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Mon Jan 31 12:48 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: lyrics For those of you into lyrics, I uploaded some steve kilbey songs to uwp.edu. They don't seem to be in any hurry to move them, as I posted them into /pub/incoming/lyrics a few weeks ago, and they are still there. The complete jack frost lyrics are there too, so hopefully they'll all get uploaded soon. I'm trying to work on some SK album lyrics (Earthed is already finished :-)) so if anyone has any lyrics they would like to include, so that we can get a complete album finished, let me know. Otherwise, look for them in the future. -paul From mosk Tue Feb 1 08:13 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Margot Smith Sound Files Just got this message from Mr. Datta.... Is there a different site for sound-files??? -m ----- Begin Included Message ----- From datta@cs.uwp.edu Tue Feb 1 05:59 PST 1994 From: datta@cs.uwp.edu (David Datta) Subject: Re: Margot Smith Sound files Sorry, we don't have enough room for sound files at this site. -- - Dave Datta@cs.uwp.edu ----- End Included Message ----- From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Wed Feb 2 02:42 PST 1994 From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Margot list removed from Seance, people added seperately Hiya Church people! As you no doubt have already reead, at the request of several subscribers to the Church list, I have removed the address seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM from the Margot Smith mailing list. I apologise to those of you who were annoyed by this unexpected mail turning up in your mailboxes, and you can rest assured that you are now safe! :) Morten collected a list of those who still wish to receive margot-list, and I must say I'm absolutely thrilled that so many of you asked to be added seperately to the list. There are now 70 people subscribed to the list, an amazing number for a list that has only been running a couple of months. Thanks to all of you. Those who didn't get their name to Morten can still be added, either by mailing me personally, or automatically (the preferred way) by sending mail to margot-list-request@xymox.apana.org.au and putting in the body of the message: SUBSCRIBE margot-list Simple as that. The subject line is unimportant. Following is the list as provided to me by Morten of those of you who wanted to continue with the list personally; if you're not there and should be, or are there and shouldn't, mail me. All of the following are now subscribed. 5ES8MONROEJ@VMS.CSD.MU.EDU 917815@edna.cc.swin.edu.au BSmith@vcomtelc.telecom.com.au JOLLEYJ@caedm.et.byu.edu PSLAKE@SUVM.SYR.EDU SUE@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu Thad_Engeling@quickmail.natinst.com V133PWN9@UBVMSB.BUFFALO.EDU bdewing@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca bove@goethite.geo.cornell.edu brenta@microsoft.com church-list@apana.org.au colcloug@zeus.usq.edu.au csc5955@zeus.tamu.edu ctn2d@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu daf@sunset.cse.nau.edu davidgl@microsoft.com dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu dwp@maths.uq.oz.au ewing@carson.u.washington.edu ez014714@shaggy.ucdavis.edu ez043457@othello.ucdavis.edu gsa@panix.com jmnuzum@colby.edu jnadams@eos.ncsu.edu jshaffer@iastate.edu jtehran@husc.harvard.edu kallista@netcom.com leong@aussie.enet.dec.com magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se matthewk@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au mca4860@venus.tamu.edu mgw2414@u.cc.utah.edu mosk@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM n9282183@henson.cc.wwu.edu oyvindst@ifi.uio.no phone@cairo.anu.edu.au pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu rcr@u.washington.edu rfd@buclaa.bu.edu rhun@harvarda.harvard.edu s2140625@cs.unsw.oz.au s932544@yallara.cs.rmit.edu.au schindle@leland.Stanford.EDU tim@large.equinox.gen.nz tlovell@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu toma@sco.COM u8021044@cc.nctu.edu.tw zeppelin@ac.dal.ca - Anthony Horan -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au "I kind of feel like I'm Metallica..." - Tori Amos on the perils of long tours, November 1992 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From rfd@buclaa.bu.edu Thu Feb 3 13:35 PST 1994 From: rfd@buclaa.bu.edu (Richard F. Delano) Subject: US label Hi again all, I'm not sure if my last post made it through or if no one knew the answer to my question. I'll ask again anyway. Will the new Church albums be released in the US by Arista? Are they still with the label? (What are the odds of The Church switching labels! :) ) If there is a US release, will the bonus album be available in the US? Just wondering. Rich Boston Univ. "I play some records but the words are too strange" From brenta@microsoft.com Thu Feb 3 14:01 PST 1994 X-Msmail-Message-Id: B975F393 X-Msmail-Conversation-Id: B975F393 X-Msmail-Wiseremark: These pretzels are making me thirsty From: Brent Aliverti Subject: RE: US label Yes, the Church are definitely on Arista for their next album in the US. There is a cut from the new album on a promo Arista Alternative CD that's been out for a couple months. I just called up Arista records and spoke with one of their publicity people. The date he had for the new Church album was April 26 (quite a bit further out than we thought). He said he thought that was true for Australia as well (take it for what its worth). I mentioned the bonus EP that was going to be shipped with the initial Australian copies. He said they had similar plans for the US release, but he wasn't sure if they would actually ship a bonus disk, or simply add some (or all) of the bonus tracks onto the regular CD. He said he would probably have more solid information in three to four weeks. ---------- From: Richard F. Delano Subject: US label Hi again all, I'm not sure if my last post made it through or if no one knew the answer to my question. I'll ask again anyway. Will the new Church albums be released in the US by Arista? Are they still with the label? (What are the odds of The Church switching labels! :) ) If there is a US release, will the bonus album be available in the US? Just wondering. Rich Boston Univ. "I play some records but the words are too strange" From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Fri Feb 4 13:25 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: priest=aura Cc: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu List members, Some of you may have been in the old fan club through Arista, which may or may not still exist. Just before priest=aura came out, they sent out a mailing, announcing its release etc. One of the things included in that mailing was a letter from Steve Kilbey, talking about the album. I thought that those of you who have not seen it might be interested in what he had to say about the album. So here it is, punctuation mistakes and all! Enjoy, paul Listen! It's quite a trick to be the perceiver, the perceived and the perception itself. Some say to pull that off is enlightenment or something awfully close. So I write this in the blur of oscillation between the poles of making the record and then describing the record and the hows, wheres and whyfors. First of all we made the stupendous decision of just making a record of the sort of music that would be fun to play and listen to. I know that sounds incredibly obvious, but you'd be surprised, honestly. We had Gavin MacKillop producing and recording with us and Gavin is a fairly left-of-center kind of bloke. He only wanted to make music that he dug and wouldn't stand for any silly compromises that were intended to steer us toward the marketplace. One of his earliest comments that endeared him greatly to us was after first having heard a rough version of "Chaos", he said, "If you're gonna call it "Chaos", it should be a bit more bloody chaotic than that", which I thought was cool seeing as how the song is essentially guitars feeding back for 15 minutes or something. I thought he did a nice job with "Melt" for Straightjacket Fits and he's got a list of credits on albums for people who are just too famous and cool to have their names mentioned here. If being self-indulgent is spending three months jamming and writing songs with three other musicians whose playing you really love and coming up with a whole lotta stuff you actually get pleasure out of listening to, then I plead guilty to self-indulgence. This is our first record with our new member, Jay Dee, who played not only drums and percussion, but bass, keyboards and vocals. Marty came back from his gig with The Eves (All About Eve) and had a volume pedal which he had been getting seriously into. This was enabling him to swell up and die, appear and dissolve in strange and unusual windows in the sound. Peter became a huge background and an intricate embroidery at the very front and the two of them together sometimes sounded like an orchestra of screams, sighs and voices of beauties and beasts. Jay Dee played his drums savagely yet precisely, like he was taking a slow but pleasurable revenge upon the songs. The three of them made writing a very easy and inspiring process. For months we alternated between a rehearsal studio and a small recording studio. Everything happened in Sydney, for no particular reason. Everyday we'd get together and start simply improvising. First day, first try we wrote "Lustre" and "Disillusionist" one after the other straight off. Not the words just the music. "Call it 'Lustre'" Marty said after it was done and so set the style of naming the songs as soon as they were freshly writ and the names, usually suggested by Marty, were just the first impressions, his interpretation of what the music was getting at, if indeed music does need to get at anything. Because, really, music exists solely for a listeners pleasure and need not be explained or justified. We were interested in dissonance and beauty and combining them and letting it flow and following after it to see where it had taken us. We wrote tons of riffs. A plethora of chord sequences, boxes of intros and outros. We soared and we struggled and we threw away hasty masterpieces. We hammered away on silly and sad flights of fancy. All our guitars and drums and gadgets and we, were in this room making all the noise we liked and playing some very pleasure-inducing bits and pieces. It was not hard work, writing this album. It was discovering new twists and turns on a highway you thought you knew pretty well but which began leading you to places you wanted to go and hadn't been able to. Songs just evolve, it's hard to say how it happens, it just does. So when we'd gotten satisfied that we had the odd decent tune we clambered into 301 Studios in downtown Sydney, where we had done every other album except "Starfish" and "G.A.F." (Gold Afternoon Fix). The place is swimming in memories, what can I say? We recorded the songs. Some took longer than others, some were literally first take. The music was beginning to sound mellifluous and took on a life and identity of it's own. The music became something no one individual member had envisioned. I mean, I don't know if Marty, Peter or Jay, had actually thought the album would sound like this, I hadn't. I know that in this random and absurd universe, I approached this and all other albums randomly and absurdly and the music became what it wanted to become. The music does not mean anything, but it is certainly not meaningless. We made the music we loved to play and that was basically it. When a track had been instrumentally completed, I usually ducked into a vacant studio and dreamt up the words. The title I knew already. Ideas had formulated over the recording of the music. Phrases had insinuated themselves against chords and spaces. Stories were being suggested in there, inside the pulse and flicker of the guitars, whole cities full of people and animals, waited to be mapped or just hinted at. The words are impressions of the music, they are it's counterpart in language. They are rock songs, and they are content to be rock songs. They are vague and opaque and they are a quick amalgamation of people, places and events. They are about things that could have happened but did not, and things that did happen but could not have. If you think that last sentence is silly, chances are you probably won't like my words much on this record. I don't exactly know where all the lyrics come from, but I trust myself implicitly, that there is a reason for them. And if I don't understand them, someone else might. The title is an equation. It's a meaningless equation. Yet now you have given it some thought, perhaps there is some meaning after all, something lurking in there somewhere. It's all a very serious joke. It's all a sad laugh. We enjoyed making this record like you wouldn't believe. If you enjoy listening to it then no one could ever ask for more than that. Oh, and going platinum could be almost as good, too. Ha, let's see! Love S.K. From gsa@panix.com Sat Feb 5 19:07 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: Re: priest=aura Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM, pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu The fan club does not exist. Mike's Management was running, and I think there was a falling out, because during their last album release, I asked about a tour and they blurted out that I should call Arista, that they don't deal with the Church anymore, and then hung right up on me. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- * The first thing we do let's kill all the lawyers _Shakespeare * ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From MCA4860@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU Wed Feb 9 12:57 PST 1994 From: MCA4860@SUMMA.TAMU.EDU Subject: some help with records? Hello! I just wanted to know if anyone of you could help me get some Church rarities that seem to be hard for me to get here in the U.S. Luckily, i just got "Sum of Parts", and i also saw the "UTMW" release with "Warm Spell" and "Musk." I was wondering how these two songs are. I'm sure they are good, but wanted to hear someone's account. I would have got them, but didn't have enough money. But i wanted to know is if anyone could help me get a copy of "Sing Songs EP" that i know is very difficult to get. I don't know my chances here in the US (or at least in Texas), but thought that elsewhere might have a much better chance. Is there any hope for this record? Thanks, mark mca4860@venus.tamu.edu From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Wed Feb 9 17:39 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Re: some help with records? Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM I think that "Warm Spell"and "Musk" are essentials. I personally really like "Warm Spell", it's kind of upbeat, maybe something like "Electric Lash"? (would people agree?). "Musk" is more moody, with lyrics about the Middle East, maybe from biblical times. It sounds sort of like "Goliath" by S.K. But I'd say get them. As for "Sing-Songs", I have seen it in a record store selling for $50 new. If you are that keen on it, I can get you details, if not, maybe someone else knows a cheaper place? I'm sure myself and any others who may have it would also be willing to tape it for you. -paul From mosk Thu Feb 10 09:32 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: Re: some help with records? Mark, "Sing Songs" is as far as I know one of the rarest and most sought after Church collectibles. It never was released here in the States and only on a small label in Australia (mine is on "Stunn Records", is this their own one-shot label?"). 3-4 years ago I saw an ad in Goldmine from a dealer who was willing to pay $65.00 for a copy. I have a standing offer of $ 100.00 for mine, but I'm not selling :-) As for Warm Spell and Musk, I regard these as definite B-side tracks. I like the last (instrumental) part of Warm Spell, but I wouldn't regard either of them essential Church tracks... However, the CD5 in question (I assume it's the UK one you were looking at) is hard to find, so you should pick it up just for that reason :-) Warm Spell was only released on the cassette version of the UtMW single here in the States. Where the hell are the record company execs' manners??? :-) -m From MCA4860@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU Fri Feb 11 11:06 PST 1994 From: MCA4860@RIGEL.TAMU.EDU Subject: thanks for the help Thanks for all the help on "Sing Songs." I guess i will have to ask for Paul's help since he is a bit closer than Tim, but anybody will help of course. And my parents live in Ventura Co. so California is not so distant. As for a better story on the stuff i saw, all was on vinyl. It was a place called Bill's in Dallas that charges far too much. I guess he makes alot of money on obsessed fans like ourselves. The UTMW was the Mushroom release and there were about 4 copies and for most other imports. He also had the Persia R emo te Luxury EPs wher end and Remote Luxury Eps where one of them was signed. (Same for an All About Eve) record.) I did not see any- I didn't seen anything of promos and singles from GAF. I will probably go back and get the UTMW single since most hear seem to enjoy alot. But i will probably avoid the "Feel" remixes. Like many bands, remixes and the church don't seem to go together. Thanks, mark From mosk Sun Feb 13 21:39 PST 1994 From: mosk (Morten Skjefte) Subject: While we're waiting for the new album.... No, I don't have any new info yet, but according to RedEye, the new single should be out now (although they didn't have any news as of a week ago). Has anyone "down under" seen it or heard it yet??? Other stuff... I was leafing through a local "entertainment-weekly" paper (for San Jose) last week, and happened on a 1/2 page ad for the Mae Moore album. A (chain) store called Music Plus was advertising. The ad had a couple of the booklet pictures with a nice little description, reading as follows: "Steve Kilbey of The Church helps out on this release which paints a dreamy songscape full of soulful and ambient pop. When Mae Moore sings, she's not just another voice in the room, she will command your attention." Nice ad, even though they are about 4 months late. :-) I skimmed the paper to see if she is playing in the area, but I could not find anything. Rhonda, you mentioned she would be playing (or has been?) in your area soon. Does anyone know of any tour dates? Secondly, I was comparing the EMI and RedEye releases of the first Kilbey single, and noticed that the title track is spelled 3 different ways! On the EMI release it's spelled "This Asphalt Eden" both on the cover and on the label. The RedEye release has "This Ashphalt Eden" on the cover and "This Ashpalt Eden" on the label. I've always assumed that the EMI way was the way to spell it, but Steve seems to pronounce it "Ash-phalt". Do all the RedEye copies have these spelling errors? Or, is there some hidden Oz folklore/slang/double meaning in there somewhere? :-) I also received a copy of the Bhagavad Guitar's "Hypnotised" album and the accompanying CD5, "Hypnotise Me". I noticed that both had a little logo on the back saying "A Karmic Hit Recording" and the CD5 has the matrix number KH 001, the album KH 002. Both were copyrighted in '92. There is absolutely no writing on the actual cd, no label, no artist info, no title... There is an address for the distributor, Shock Records, but it's not Steve's home address :-) But I guess that means the label is on it's way.... :-) Anyone have the "Foreverglades" album by them??? If you're interested in selling / trading, let me know.... -morten From large!tim@equinox.gen.nz Mon Feb 14 22:57 PST 1994 Organization: non-organisation Reply-To: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz X-Charset: iso-8859-1 From: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz (Tim Lucas) Subject: Re: While we're waiting for the new album.... > > No, I don't have any new info yet, but according to RedEye, the new > single should be out now (although they didn't have any news as of a week > ago). Has anyone "down under" seen it or heard it yet??? I was walking past one of our local record stores the other day and saw a blackboard sitting outside that read "ARRIVING SOON - THE CHURCH...." and some other stuff that I didn't bother to read. I went in to ask them what they knew about and they sheepishly admitted that thay didn't really know very much about it at all, only that The Church were making an album which was possibly due out in a couple of months. I guess it's better than some of our other record store assistants that say "Who?" -Tim From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Mon Feb 14 23:20 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Subject: Album and Single release dates Hi all, Just read Morten's posting regarding the new album, so I thought I'd call Mushroom and get some dates. And here they are ! The single (Loveblind) is due on the 14th of March and the album on the 28th of March. 4 weeks and 6 weeks respectively ! A little too long for me, but I'm going to try and wangle and advanced copy. Wish me luck ! Brian "Hi, I'm REALLY from Rolling Stone." Smith (I won't be THAT ambitious.) From rcr@u.washington.edu Tue Feb 15 15:02 PST 1994 From: Rhonda Corcoran Subject: Mae Moore Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM > full of soulful and ambient pop. When Mae Moore sings, she's not just > another voice in the room, she will command your attention." Nice ad, > even though they are about 4 months late. :-) I skimmed the paper to see > if she is playing in the area, but I could not find anything. Rhonda, > you mentioned she would be playing (or has been?) in your area soon. > Does anyone know of any tour dates? I had to miss the show (Jan 30th)due to an exam the following day and a shortage of funds. From what I remember though, their was very little/no prior mention of the show in the local press. The only reason I knew she was in Seattle was because I passed by the venue she played at. So if anyone is interested in seeing her, keep your eyes peeled for the venues you think she might be playing at near you. Here in Seattle she played at a relatively small club (capacity a hundred or so). Rhonda From pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Wed Feb 16 12:41 PST 1994 From: pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu Subject: Church videos Hi list members, I posted this just before X-mas, but I thought I'd do it again. I have 2 videos featuring the Church, that are available for sale/trade. The contents are: 1. Live concert on Italian MTV, Milan 1988 (52 min) (see discography for track list) Videos for "Already Yesterday" and "You Took" (These are on the 1985 Australian video compilation, but not on "Goldfish...") Live studio appearances on European TV: "The Unguarded Moment" and "Almost With You" Videos for "Questions Without Answers" by Marty Willson-Piper, and "Ethereal Message" by Hex 2. Live concert on Italian MTV, Bologna 1985 (35 min) (see discography for track lists) Live studio appearances on Italian TV: "reptile", "destination", and "N.S.E.W." Live on MTV Unplugged 1990: "Under The Milky Way", "Metropolis", and "Rain" (MWP and Jules Shear) MTV 120 Minutes interview with MWP, PK and SK, 1990 Videos are $15 each, or trade. They are on US (NTSC) system, so special arrangements may apply to foreign orders. -paul From jsalfonso@ucdavis.edu Thu Feb 17 00:22 PST 1994 From: Toll Booth Willie Subject: Kilbey bauble Hey there, all... At the beginning of Kilbey's "Vanishing Act" on the Remindlessness album there is a buzzing little backward dub, right when the song starts. I just sampled it and ran it backwards - it says "The Dream King" Whee! Oh, btw, my name is Joe Alfonso, I am a student at the University of California at Davis, and a shadowy lurking figure on this mailing-list -------------------- ez014714@shaggy.ucdavis.edu From jmnuzum@COLBY.EDU Thu Feb 17 13:38 PST 1994 From: jmnuzum@COLBY.EDU i was listening to seance the other day and i noticed a little "gap" in the song "it's no reason." It occurred right after the first word in the song, what, crocodile? and i am wondering if this is a flaw of my recording, or if this is a universal flaw...i was listening fairly loud--it is very short and hard to notice unless you are listening loud. my recording is a CD. i would appreciate some invetigating and input anyone might have. it is possible that i need a new recording, but i don't think that it is a physical flaw with the disc, it seems like more of a production/manufacturer flaw. thanks -jim From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Thu Feb 17 15:57 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: RE: "Bump" on It's No Reason > i was listening to seance the other day and i noticed a little "gap" in the > song "it's no reason." It occurred right after the first word in the song, > what, crocodile? I've got that noise too. My CD is an Arista pressing. Brian From djbarnard@ucdavis.edu Thu Feb 17 23:51 PST 1994 From: djbarnard@ucdavis.edu Subject: Re: your mail Cc: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM On Thu, 17 Feb 1994 jmnuzum@COLBY.EDU wrote: > i was listening to seance the other day and i noticed a little "gap" in the > song "it's no reason." It occurred right after the first word in the song, > what, crocodile? and i am wondering if this is a flaw of my recording, or > if this is a universal flaw...i was listening fairly loud--it is very short I just listened to the "It's no reason," with my Sony Dynamic headphones for digital. Yes, there is a loud poping in the middle of the 23rd second. It's not your disk-- unless mine is the same. David J. Barnard djbarnard@othello.ucdavis.edu "Man is nothing else but what he makes of himself." - Jean-Paul Sartre From large!tim@equinox.gen.nz Sat Feb 19 21:57 PST 1994 From: tim@large.equinox.gen.nz (Tim Lucas) Subject: EARTHED (The Book) I sent away for, and have since recieved EARTHED (The Book). To my surprise when I opened the front cover I was greeted with a huge autograph that said "Love - Steve Kilbey". Wow!! My first S.K autograph. Anyway on the back of the book it decribes EARTHED (The Record) as: "An album of music which could be seen to be instrumental to the reading of the book, released through Redeye records". So I tried playing the record while I read the book and found that when playing the appropriate tracks to the chapters of the book, the music strangly seemed to fit the stories/poems in the book. And yes, I still havn't worked out who Neuman is that keeps popping up in the book! -Tim From dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Sat Feb 19 22:14 PST 1994 From: dwohlfor@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu Subject: Neuman of Earthed fame... Well, Tim's recent letter gave me the idea that I should speak up with my idea of who vaguely Neuman is. A friend of mine told me that Neuman is the Angelicized spelling of the Latin word for 'divine spirit.' Sound plausible? I think so given the context. I'd love to hear any opinions on this (even "Dave, you dough-head! Shut up!") :-) dave From gsa@panix.com Mon Feb 21 16:11 PST 1994 From: Gary Assa Subject: marty JPG file I thought I'd u/l this MWP picture from my personal Kodak Photo-CD disk [Deleted by archiver: couldn't get picture to unpack properly] From anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Sat Feb 26 03:47 PST 1994 Reply-To: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au Organization: Xymox UUCP System, Melbourne Australia From: anthony@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan) Subject: Re: (none) > i was listening to seance the other day and i noticed a little "gap" in the > song "it's no reason." It occurred right after the first word in the song, > what, crocodile? and i am wondering if this is a flaw of my recording, or > if this is a universal flaw...i was listening fairly loud--it is very short There is no such dropout or gap on the version of the song included on the "Hindsight" double CD, a version which seems to be an edit of some kind. I'd say that the glitch ended up appearing in the digital mastering stage somewhere. "Seance" was one of the first albums EMI mastered digitally at 301, though whether Arista used an EMI-supplied digital tape or an analog production master as their source for the CD is unknown. I still haven't got a copy of "Seance" on CD, so I can't yet hear the glitch you're talking about... - Anthony -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Anthony Horan, Melbourne Australia - anthony@xymox.apana.org.au those herbal-tea moments." - Caroline Sullivan of The Guardian reviewing the new "Victoria Amos" album. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From BSmith@VCOMTELC.TELECOM.com.au Sun Feb 27 18:01 PST 1994 From: "Smith, Brian" Cc: Church Subject: Re: (none) > There is no such dropout or gap on the version of the song included on the > "Hindsight" double CD, a version which seems to be an edit of some kind. .... [...rest deleted...] The Hindsight version skips the opening synth part, which is where the bump occured. I would say that "They corrected it in hindsight" but that would just be tacky. :) Brian