Frank Varrasso did this interview Steve Kilbey, describing The Church - "From what I can gather, each album we do has a particular sound which needs to be listened to. The more you listen to it, the more you get into it. We don't come along and immediately bang you over the head with a big hammer, we're subtle. I mean for a rock band, rock music is not founded on subtlety and I think we are reasonably subtle." The latest album from The Church, Gold Afternoon Fix, is soon to be released and like many other Church albums its subtle nature draws you closer to it. As usual you're infected to the point of addiction. Songs like Fading Away, Laughing and Disappointed elicit different emotions that are common in Church tracks. The album will not disappoint Church fans, because once they look beyond the obvious, the intricate music and lyrics combine to create a unique sound. Gold Afternoon Fix is a stock market term and is a title which is somewhat obscure for the Church's album. "Naming an album is very much like naming a dog or a a child. It's just sort of a phrase," says Kilbey. "We had a whole lot of names written down in a book and this one really appealed to everybody. There was no real reason, it's just very random. The album has nothing to do with the stock market. Starfish was called Starfish but it wasn't about little crustaceans in the bottom of a rock pool. Everything about The Church is random, all the notes are random, so are the lyrics therefore why not choose a random title." Speculating for a moment I wondered if the success of The Church was solely based on being 'random'. Each member lives well apart from one another, and Peter, Marty and Steve have obtained recognition for their solo careers. "We all like to do our own thing, " states Kilbey. "We all have different backgrounds, there's no one thing. It doesn't matter where anyone chooses to live, we just get back together, strap up our guitars and go for it." While Kilbey makes this all sound so easy he denies that the band are complacent about their work. "Sometimes we get together and it's like we're the worst amateur band in the world, it's horrible." Steve Kilbey believes another reason for success is that each member has a different background. "We all have different musical influences. I like early to mid T-Rex, David Bowie, Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, your "real songwriter" type songwriters. I really like that sort of stuff but I never really liked lead guitarists and heavy metal and Ritchie Blackmore stuff. I hate that stuff but Peter and Marty swear by it. So a bit this and a bit of that results in something." The band's democratic attitude allows Peter Koppes and Marty Willson-Piper to show off their singing ability in Gold Afternoon Fix as they had done on Starfish. One track off the latest album, Russian Autumn Heart, is very characteristic. The Church have variety, there is no one particular protagonist, the process of making music is combined. Frontman Steve Kilbey is often praised as an excellent songwriter and many expect to see lyrics packaged with the album. Yet as with Starfish, Gold Afternoon Fix supplies no lyrics. Many fans would be disappointed with this omission, however STeve feels that the "...lyrics should be heard and not seen. It bugs me when I'd write lyrics to a song and it was written on paper for people to quote and judge it as a piece of poetry. It's there to be sung and not read, people should have it with the music." Kilbey is adamant that the whole band writes material, and it's this unique marriage between music and lyrics that sets the band apart. Thought provoking lyrics and subtle sounds are the essence of the band's work. Producer Waddy Wachtel, who also produced Starfish, monopolises each member's individual talents. For his work on Gold Afternoon Fix, Kilbey says: "Starfish started something we didn't finish with Waddy. I thought towards the end of Starfish that we worked out a way of working with Waddy and he worked out a way of working with us. He saw the appeal in us and we saw the appeal in him. It would have been a shame not to do another album with him." A further reason for the success of The Church is their ability to shun the limelight. The band has avoided television and radio saturation and have come out smelling like quiet achievers - a situation which has led to many critics admiring them. Kilbey says that "...in order to be successful people have to do what they want to do. I think a lot of people admire the fact that we've kept on keeping on, just doing it over and over, and not chasing what everybody else is doing. People seem to like that." With all the baited anticipation of not only a new album but a tour, one sour fact remains. There has been a line-up change and drmmer Richard Ploog has left the fab four. This hasn't pleased Kilbey. "Richard lost interest and when he lost interest, I lost interest in him, so Jay Dee Dougherty from the Patti Smith group is going to play with us for at least the next year. It's not necessarily permanent, nothing is permanent any more and if Richard got his act together again I think he might rejoin the band, but I don't know if he'll be able to." After the Australian shows The Church are heading off for the U.S and Japan. Kilbey explains that chasing money in the States is not the reason for their U.S tour. "you can't say 'what's The Church's attraction to the U.S', it's more the attraction of The Church to the U.S. We're doing really well there, our records are selling and a lot of people want to see us play. The idea of a band is to go where people want to see you, this what we're doing." Makes you wonder what the Americans see in The Church that we don't. Has the Australian public neglected them ? "I just think that the Australian music industry is about twenty years behind the U.S, but the beauty of Australia is that it doesn't stomp on our individualism. At least here you're given an opportunity. We may not have made it if we began in America." Melbourne's opportunity to see The Church comes on April 9 and Kilbey believes that they'll have more bite in their live performance, although he admits he's not quite sure what to expect. "We haven't played together for two years, we've got a new drummer, a new album which no-one has heard and a new crew. It might be sheer genius, it might be the most mediocre load of tripe you've ever seen in your whole life, but I hope it isn't. I hope we don't disappoint people, it's important to me and Melbourne's always been a special place for The Church.