Water Rites

Discography Information

1995 Water Rites



Caravan


Finest Hour


Sublimation


Arabia


House Are


Spirit March


Brave


Liberation Dance


Faith


Wolf Run


On Wings Of Love





Personnel:


Jim Leone - Bass, vocals


Richard Ploog - drums


Anthony Smith - keyboards, vocals


Peter Koppes - vocals, guitars





Additional Musicians:


Peter Pix - mandolin


Robien Haider - percussion


Derek Austin - didgeridoo


Zoom - percussion


Sonia Chemarin - vocals


Manny Lieber - flute


Mark Wood - percussion





Additional vocals:


Matthew Hartley, Sophia Rose Zybert, Russel Grigg, Jane Cox, Mark Wood


Singles

None

Other Material Released


None

Sound Bytes (Real Audio)

Arabia I used to live in Saudi Arabia so this really appealed to me. I think I've worked out the chords for this too.
Caravan Another Eastern kinda feeling.
Spirit March Screamingly powerful instrumental. "Echoey-achey" was the Word Of The Week on the mailing list !
Wings Of Love Features a tastefully done 64-track children's choir.

Key Interviews

An exclusive interview was done a while ago, with Thomas from the seance list speaking with Peter on a broad range of subjects.

Other Notes


Phantom Records are handling orders for the CD which will cost $22.00 plus postage & handling All prices are in Australian dollars. US dollars are will be accepted at a rate of .78 but we prefer credit card conversions.

"The CD will be available after the 15th of December. You were one of the first thirty to show interest (after our sneak release on the net) and your name is on the reservation list, but don't leave it for to long as there are only 1000 copies pressed at this stage. Hopefully you should be able to make credit card orders through the Chaos Music Market site within the next couple of days but I'm waiting for Peter's go ahead on that one. Credit card or orders by cheque can be sent directly to Phantom Records on;



Fax No. 61-2-267 5242 or Phone 61-2-264 8992 or email cmmusic@ozemail.com.au





SHOP: 375 Pitt St., Sydney


Mail: P.O. Box A566, Sydney South 2000, Australia"


There's a mistake in Wings Of Love; at 3:56 there's a definite drop in pitch, like the tape speed has decreased momentarily.


Opinions

These opinions have been nicked from the Seance mailing list. Why not sign up today !? Write now and get a free e-mail from me ! :-)

Apparently Peter used the following opinions in the promotional material that was distributed for the album.



From: Paul Maurice Webb (pmwebb@cats.ucsc.edu)


Subject: Re: Water Rites yet?


cc: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu








>Anyone (specifically those close to Sydney) gotten their Koppes CD yet?





Well, I'm about as far from Sydney as I think you can be on this small blue planet, but I got the Koppes CD yesterday I think. I am about 5 songs into it so far, and already I think it is his best work yet. Several songs are rather "Churchy" too. The tracks are:


Caravan


Finest Hour


Sublimation


Arabia


House Are


Spirit march


Brave


Liberation Dance


Faith


Wolf Run


On Wings Of Love





Personnel:


Jim Leone - Bass, vocals


Richard Ploog - drums


Anthony Smith - keyboards, vocals


Peter Koppes - vocals, guitars





Additional Musicians:


Peter Pix - mandolin


Robien Haider - percussion


Derek Austin - didgeridoo


Zoom - percussion


Sonia Chemarin - vocals


Manny Lieber - flute


Mark Wood - percussion





Additional vocals:


Matthew Hartley, Sophia Rose Zybert, Russel Grigg, Jane Cox, Mark Wood





It's a much fuller sound than his previous work, and his vocals aren't as strained as they sometimes sound. I won't go into a song by song  description, as I'm only up to #7 by now, but I will say that "Spirit March" is an instrumental.





I think it sounds like this one is worth the search.


-paul





From: dhelgerm@aaas.org


Date: Wed, 20 Dec 1995 11:23:10 -0500


Subject: Re: Water Rites yet?


To: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu, Kevin Gamble 





     


The good spirit of xmas is shining on me, I got mine (plus Iridescence) last night and I just put my order in last Tuesday. And I live in Maryland. There is something brown and holy about the east (Jack Kerouac).





I was shaking with excitement and am still letting the music sink in. It's like rubbing down with scented oil. Well, i mean it must be, but i've never rubbed down with scented oil; maybe it's like *being* rubbed down with scented oil...ooh! 





I hope you get yours soon, iknow you will





LONG LIVE THE OTHER HALF OF THE CHURCH!!





Dan, who thinks Ploog is the best drummer in the Universe





From: dennis@chem.eng.usyd.edu.au (Dennis McNevin)


Subject: Water Rites





I went to pick up my copy of Water Rites at Phantom last weekend.  I've played the whole thing and it's got that ethereal quality to it that I associate so much with The Church.  I think the vocals are a little too obscured, though.





From: Beebster@aol.com


Date: Thu, 21 Dec 1995 10:20:55 -0500


To: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu


Subject: re:  Water Rites





I was rather excited (to say the least) to receive my copy of Water Rites yesterday.   This is some really primo stuff here.   Those of you who have a hard time getting past Peter's voice may have the same trouble with this one,


but trust me, there is much MUCH more on this tasty little gem to listen to than the voice.  I've personally found a lot of Peter's earlier solo projects a tad unsatisfying because I expected them to be heavily guitar laden, and


they turned out to be more keyboard based.   





This CD is chock full of that dreamy, aching, soaring, atmospheric, wailing Koppes guitar work.   Listening to this for the first time made it painfully obvious to me what I'd felt missing from most of SA/SE.   Yeah, there's still a lot of keyboards and stuff on this record, but those guitars are usually made center stage -- and the other instrumentation is very tight and meshes well.   Nice, solid, whole band sound here.  : )





On a non-musical note (pardon the pun), I found it interesting that the artists is credited simply as The Well, rather than Peter Koppes and The Well (as on Iridescence).  Also interesting is a glaring typo on the sleeve  -- track #5 is mistakingly credited as "House Are", rather than "House Afire".   Oops.  





- Cath  :D





From: Kevin Gamble 


To: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu


Subject:  Water Rites Puzzler!!





OK, all those who've got the new Koppes CD...





   Am I the only one who's noticed that two of the songs are almost identical in their basic structure (though they develop a bit differently), and they start off EXACTLY the same way, drum beats and all (though in a different key)?  I won't tell you which songs, but you'll only have to


listen to the first couple seconds of each to tell.  And in a possible coincidence, I think that these two songs also sound the most Church-like of any on the album.





   Not to slight Peter; I think this is a great album; his echo-y, aching guitar lines are superb, and he gives Marty's claim that he can play "just as beautifully, but uglier" than Peter a serious challenge (vis the soloing on


"Spirit March").  I highly recommend it.  His very brief use of slide guitar is almost worth the price alone.





Happy new year everyone,


Kevin


A.....a-a-a....a-a-ra....bi-ia (if you have the CD, you know what I


mean--hopefully ;)





To: Kevin Gamble 


cc: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu


Subject: Re: Water Rites Puzzler!!





since when did the 'official adjectives of peter's guitar' become 





"ECHOEY-ACHEY"  ??!





From: Beebster@aol.com


Date: Sun, 31 Dec 1995 17:51:51 -0500


To: jaburns@astro.ocis.temple.edu


cc: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu


Subject: Re: Water Rites Puzzler!!





>since when did the 'official adjectives of peter's guitar' become 


>


>"ECHOEY-ACHEY"  ??!





Actually, I think the above describes Peter's playing style perfectly.


 Another (borrowed from the OJ trial) is "plaintively wailing".    I hear an


intense passion linked with a sad, almost palpable painful yearning in


Peter's playing.   This is especially true (and even magnified) all over the


Water Rites album.  The instrumental (Spirit March) contains some of the most


incredibly intense passionate playing I've ever heard.   Its so achingly


beautiful that I can almost feel physical pain whenever I hear it.  





- Cath  :D








X-Sender: coat@roadrunner.atlas.co.uk


To: seance@thechurch.EBay.Sun.COM


From: coat@atlas.co.uk (Andy Clements)


Subject: CHAT!! - So that's where the Church sound went





Hi everyone and happy new year





I just felt a sudden compulsion to start using those e-mail headers we all


argued about before Christmas.





And also to say that Water Rites has just confirmed to me where the all the


Churchiness went from SA.


I like SA very much, and it was nice to have a change of sound... but it's


only when hearing WR [a new acronym!] that I realised just how much I miss


this bloke's guitar playing. If it's true he's playing on the next Church


album, I hope he gets the chance to shine.





OK, I know the singing's a bit dodgy at times, but I think his voice has


got something. Or maybe I'm just too forgiving ;). I felt he sounded almost


like MWP and SK at times. I even love the kiddies' choir bit - for anybody


who hasn't heard it yet - the music fades and a little kiddies choir is


left singing the haunting little melody. Then the guitars come BACK! It is,


as they say, awesome.





Anyway, this album is effing brilliant and I'm chuffed as five blue bears


to own it.





I think it was Cath who said the guitar was incredibly intense, but Kev (I


think it was him) got it dead right: "echoey-achey" IS the definitive


description.





From: BTurner01@aol.com


Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:52:26 -0500


To: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu


cc: BTurner01@aol.com


Subject: Water Rites





I know that this "thread" has been worked over during the past several weeks,


but 


I just have to share these thoughts...





I just finished listening to Water Rites, and I have to say that this is


Koppes at his best. The "Church Sound" is alive and well in the Well.......


Caravan and On Wings of Love are gems....


Peter needs to try more vocal range variations, though.....


The Church could only do so well as to let Koppes still be an active


participant in the group in the studio or out of the studio.





From: Beebster@aol.com


Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:00:59 -0500


To: seance@gnu.ai.mit.edu


Subject: Re: Water Rites





>Although I can't imagine the tracks from "Water Rites" fitting along


>side those on "Priest=Aura", It's still a shame "Water Rites" couldn't


>have been a Church album.  Clearly Kilbey & Koppes began moving in


>different directions after Starfish.





Although admittedly a very unfair comparison, I can't help but think of


Sometime Anywhere whenever I listen to the Water Rites album.   I keep


thinking what the guitar on Caravan could have done for a song like Day of


the Dead......and then there are the sort of obvious theme similarities, the


very eastern feel of so much of Water Rites -- wouldn't it be great to


somehow have Arabia incorporated into Eastern??   And most of all, I would


LOVE to hear what weird, wild and wonderful concoction could have been made


with Peter's incredible Spirit March guitar work somehow combined with


Angelica !!





Oh well....I can still dream.....





- Cath  :D


Rich Delano -

I've only just acquired "Water Rites" and I think it picks up right where "Iridescence" left off. I thought for sure it would be a let down as the album was so highly praised on the list when it came out. Surpisingly, to me anyway, the album not only met my high expectations, but surpassed them in a big way. It's Peter's best work to date, IMO.

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